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bouncer
11-12-2003, 05:01 AM
Alright lads,my name is bouncer im an Irish film student doing research on the horror genre and need help.I just need people to e mail me at [email protected] with thoughts on the following.(Is this cheating)

Why does Micheal kill at the start of Halloween?
Why does Ben die at the end of Night of the dead?
Feminist undertones in films
Civil rights movements in horror (Gay rights ,Black panthers)

If anyone can recomend sites or books that could help id be very grateful.

THANKS

FreddyFan
11-12-2003, 01:57 PM
those are dumbass questions. those are the reasons the movies are good. think before u type asshole.

SoUl SuRvIvOrS
11-12-2003, 06:38 PM
Not to sound like a bitch but why dont you watch the movies? books to read? you want horror stories or answers to your questions? :confused:

NirvanaNole
11-12-2003, 10:09 PM
"Why does Micheal kill at the start of Halloween?"

Because he is inherently evil and an inner force drives him to kill off his family. That, and the fact to set up that he is insane. Carpenter didn't decide Curtis would be his younger sister until the sequel.

"Why does Ben die at the end of Night of the dead?"

Never seen it, but now you ruined it for me if I ever do!

"Feminist undertones in films"

Females are usually always the killer's protagonist at the end of the movie and survive. This is because the killer is usually male and females help portray the underdog, weak person that overcomes the Goliath killer in the end.

"Civil rights movements in horror (Gay rights ,Black panthers)"

Black people always die first and I can't think of any gay characters in major horror movies. What civil rights? lol




I hope these answers help. Of course, it probably would be A LOT easier if you rented the movies and watched instead.

bouncer
11-13-2003, 04:11 AM
I have seen them and read books but it still doesnt make sense.
Like in the Texas Chainsaw Massacre the evil family are quite extreme victims of capitalism because of the slaughterhouse closing down.
As well Zombie films are all attacks on consumerism
Think it was Dawn of the Dead where Zombies try to kill people inside a shopping mall.
Its that sort of thinking im having trouble with.
Sure Micheal Myers can be insane for the sake of the film but what caused it.Whats Carpenter trying to say?
Why dont black people feature in horror films?

billbundix
11-13-2003, 05:58 AM
black men are the heros of all three dead movies.

NirvanaNole
11-14-2003, 12:29 AM
"Sure Micheal Myers can be insane for the sake of the film but what caused it.Whats Carpenter trying to say?"

Okay, this is petty crap, but his named is spelled MichAEl. My name is Michael, so perhaps I'm too sensitive to catch that mistake. ;)

Carpenter didn't have some great deep meaning. In all the interviews I've seen with him, he stated he just decided to make a movie about the "boogie man" trying to kill the baby-sitter. He didn't even come up with the fact they'd be related until he wrote the sequel.

I think you're looking for something deeply hidden that is not there.

"Why dont black people feature in horror films?"

Well, perhaps it is supply and demand. Most of my black friends aren't in to horror movies for some reason. Most of my friends that love horror movies are all white. Perhaps the black race generally doesn't support horror movies financially by going to the theater, so many writers don't write characters to appeal to black people.

That, or it could be the fact most people making horror movies, and most movies, are white people and they tend to identify with white characters and tend to write movies with characters they are familiar with.

Man I am too damn sober to get in a deep mood to come up with better arguments. Perhaps when I'm wasted Saturday night I'll give these questions another stab. lol

FangoFan
11-17-2003, 01:49 PM
bouncer seems like a corperate punk instead of a horror fan

mictlan
11-17-2003, 02:11 PM
Civil rights movements in horror (Gay rights ,Black panthers)

There are a few blaxploitation horror films:
Abby (Exorcist ripoff, hard to find)
Blacula (the sequel, Scream Blacula Scream features Pam Grier.)
The Zombies of Sugar Hill (great, sort of a zombie Koffy ripoff)

the film I Walked With a Zombie has a lot of not-so-subtle anti-slavery subtext.

avenger00soul
11-17-2003, 07:15 PM
Originally posted by mictlan
Civil rights movements in horror (Gay rights ,Black panthers)

There are a few blaxploitation horror films:
Abby (Exorcist ripoff, hard to find)
Blacula (the sequel, Scream Blacula Scream features Pam Grier.)
The Zombies of Sugar Hill (great, sort of a zombie Koffy ripoff)

the film I Walked With a Zombie has a lot of not-so-subtle anti-slavery subtext.

Don't forget Blackenstein and Dr. Black, Mr. Hyde.

BavaPanicFan
11-17-2003, 07:22 PM
Quote:bouncer seems like a corperate punk instead of a horror fan
Corporate Punk? What the hell are you doing talking shit about "corporate punks" for? If it weren't for "Corporate Punks"you wouldn't have half of the horror movies we all so passionately love. Stop being a sheep and bein all "damn the man" and think for a second before you decide you wanna be a punk rock cock by talkin about corporate punks. Jackass.

big black
11-17-2003, 07:35 PM
shut up!
corperate punks! blah blah blah...whats your problem?

BavaPanicFan
11-17-2003, 07:41 PM
oh, and Bouncer, the reason Ben dies in NIght of The Living Dead is because Romero wanted to say something about the state of Civil Rights in the country at the time. Black people were struggling very hard to achieve equality, and it seemed like no matter what they did, they kept getting "shot down"(pun intended).Even to have a black lead at all which, aside from Sydney Poiter in "Guess Who's Coming To Dinner" was unheard of, was very groundbreaking in its own right.
And as for the feminist undertones, I have a feeling most of the films have less to do with feminism, and more to do with the fact that a whole lot less people wanna see a hot teenage boy bein chased around by a knife wielding maniac. Regardless of how much "integrity" some of these movies pretend to have, the bottom line is money. And studio execs know that hot teenage girl being chased is gonna rake in the green.

BavaPanicFan
11-17-2003, 07:43 PM
whats my problem?