The whole Tsunami deal...

[ChEEbA]

The UN is calling it the "biggest disaster EVER"
Last I heard, the bodycount was at 26,000 and climbing, throughout India, Thailand and Sri Lanka.

Families torn from eachother by the raging water, tens of thousands killed (and I don't think they've even found half the bodies yet), and literally millions left homeless, in countries that are already poor, and heavily relied upon tourism to make a living.
This is very bad for these countries, and could be the beggining of a downward spiral if they do not receive the help they are in need of.

I actually have a friend in Sri Lanka, and it's so messed up over there that I haven't been able to find out much, at this point, I can only hope that they're ok.

Anyway, just thought I'd do my bit...there's a few charity organisations over HERE working to send what releif they can.
I'm sure there's some operating everywhere...
So, folks...whether or not you have friends or family from any of the effected areas, or hey, even if you've at some point just enjoyed a thai or indian curry, or enjoyed a holiday under the excellent hospitality they offer in these countries....if you can throw a few bucks over their way, I'm sure that even though you'll never get the personal thanks you deserve - you'd be helping someone who's just lived through worse than most of us will (hopefully) ever have to.

I'M POSTING THIS HERE AND IN "EVENTS & HAPPENINGS", as I want everyone to see it.
Apologies if you've read it twice because of this.

- B

[wufong]

Originally posted by ChEEbA
The UN is calling it the "biggest disaster EVER"


- B
don't tell me the UN has forgotten about Rwanda already?..
it was a disaster. its just that when the UN says it, it i get flashes of some cheap two bit second hand car dealer trying to sell me something.

[ChEEbA]

Just information, man...it's not like I'm pimpin' my membership here or something.

[wufong]

yeah i gave ten bucks to oxfam.. i dont trust the un and i espeacily dont trust the red cross..

[ChEEbA]

Yeah, oxfam is good here too...
So, how did they come up with the "worst disaster ever" bit? Is that determined solely on bodycount, or?

[I_Still_Know!]

Very descent of you to post this Cheeba.

I work for a large company that looks after IT systems and applications for the business in these countries, and therefore we are contacted pretty much by every country that was affected by the Tsunami on a daily basis.

They have been pretty quiet the last few days as I am sure that they have bigger more important things to worry about.

Me and a few workmates donated some money this evening. Hope it will help.

[I_Still_Know!]

Anyway, I am off to bed. It's been a long day.

[urgeok]

i guess i'd better turn on the TV.

I only get my news on the radio when i'm going to work .. otherwise i have no exposure .. and since I havent been at work since xmas eve, i have no idea what happened.

[ChEEbA]

Well...yeah, big disaster type thing...

[newb]

I find it incomprehensible that so many [ over 40,000 so far ] could die at one time like that. And about half of them are children.

I shall be donating what ever I can.

[urgeok]

Originally posted by newb
I find it incomprehensible that so many [ over 40,000 so far ] could die at one time like that. And about half of them are children.

I shall be donating what ever I can.


well, according to christians .. its god's will.

i dont think I'll be finding jesus anytime soon.

[newb]

Originally posted by urgeok
well, according to christians .. its god's will.

i dont think I'll be finding jesus anytime soon.

I had thought about bringing the old "how can a just God let this happen" into it , but figured it would open a whole different can of worms.


hmmmm....looks like its out there now.

[FairyKorpes]

It all happens for a reason, just be thankful your not destitue like these poor people.

[MichaelMyers]

Yeah this really sucks. There is this one video they kept showing on CNN of people trying to grab onto something and being literally washed away with the current...I mean it looks as if the people are going to die. The footage was quite disturbing. Hoping they were able to get out.

[Gren the cake]

its very sad.... but like fairy said, everything happens for a reason

just a part of life.. if theyre not washed away by a tsunami, killed by earthquakes, their starving, dieing of aids.. etc etc..

[Dr.L00MIS]

Originally posted by newb
I had thought about bringing the old "how can a just God let this happen" into it , but figured it would open a whole different can of worms.


hmmmm....looks like its out there now.



Your god is dead
and no one cares
if there is a hell
I'll see you there


-Trent Reznor

[ChEEbA]

That's kinda innapropriote, man...

[42ndStreetFreak]

That a bunch of pilgrims bathing in the sea were killed kind of shows up ALL the religious/God stuff for what it is.

Anyway.....It's a truly terrible event and the scale is quite frankly tragedy off the scale.
But it's Mother Earth. It does what it does.
It was throwing up all kinds of things that we call 'natural disasters' millions of years before we were around to be affected by them.
People live on coastal areas, on tiny islands 3 foot above sea level and so on....
And as such things like this will happen because it's what the Earth does. It always has and it always will.
And in the end one of the things it does will hurt us.

It's how this World works. It's a massive tragedy, but it's the price we pay the living on Earth in general and for living in certain areas of it.

Don't forget you Americans...one day the San Francisco earthquake to end all earthquakes will happen.
We know, we live with such things, we make the choice.
It's what happens when Man lives in all areas of the World.

There's no one to be angry at (unless you beleive in a God....you can be angry at one of them) it's just they way our Planet is.

[Dr.L00MIS]

Originally posted by ChEEbA
That's kinda innapropriote, man...



Not my intention.I just find it stupid anyone could claim the deaths of over 26,000 is thier gods "will".

[orangestar]

I dont understand why they have to continue showing video of dead bodies and people being washed away on the news.

Its just like 9/11 when they had all the pictures of people jumping.


This is a very bad timne for them. My family is donating some money...every little bit helps I suppose.

[Death By Jell-O]

Death Toll is now at over 67,000.....They're expecting it to double once the people that were washed out to sea begin to be found.....That's hella fucked up....

[ChEEbA]

Im not cheeba for starters.
Im Anna "Spallalala". But since cheeba can't seem to sign out I can't get in arrghh.
I just wanted to post this once in here because we have a friend over in Sri Lanka. I spoke with her a few weeks back and we were planning her return. I dont know if she is ok. And it really sucks not knowing.
The last update I heard it was at 80,000 plus now. And it could double by the weekend.
I have noticed that every year around this time something happens. Last year wasn't it fires, or was that the year before. I dunno too wasted to really know.
And yeah orangestar, I do agree with what your saying. I mean theres usually kids watching and they dont need to see that kinda stuff, its messing with the childs emotions. Even if they have to see it at some point in there life, they dont need to see it on repeat.
And well I dont belive in god. I know someone is here with us. As to why all of this destruction and sorrow, well maybe there is a purpose.
I will be back under Spallalala again once i figure out how to get back haha.
Also, I reckon everyone here should go and donate some money to all of this. Cheeba and I are doing so today.

[HappyCamper]

yeah it really sucks! I'll definitely throw some money into the relief effort. unfortunately people's curosity can lead to bad results. in a tsunami, the water gets sucked back into the ocean so lots of people often wonder onto the now dry land to see what's happening, and that's when most of the havoc begins.

[allmykids]

I was watching more news on this eary this morning. It made me cry. It's just so sad. I love the way countrys are pulling together to help!!

[Death By Jell-O]

The only somewhat negative thing I can say is.....It's funny how if the US steps in to take out a terrorist threat (such as Iraq) we are shunned as a whole and the world hates us, yet if a Tsunami wipes out a lot of people, then all of a sudden, Hey! We're the good guys! Send help, send money, Be humanitarians! How cool is that?

[allmykids]

Originally posted by Death By Jell-O
The only somewhat negative thing I can say is.....It's funny how if the US steps in to take out a terrorist threat (such as Iraq) we are shunned as a whole and the world hates us, yet if a Tsunami wipes out a lot of people, then all of a sudden, Hey! We're the good guys! Send help, send money, Be humanitarians! How cool is that?

I hear ya!! Where shit till some country needs us!!

[Dr.L00MIS]

Originally posted by allmykids
I hear ya!! Where shit till some country needs us!!



It helps keep us from being the biggest assholes on earth.

[allmykids]

Originally posted by Dr.L00MIS
It helps keep us from being the biggest assholes on earth.

We always Help other countrys even if they hate us. We are a very giving nation!!

[Death By Jell-O]

No one understands that....They just view us as blood thirsty tyrants that stick their nose where it doesn't belong........

[Dr.L00MIS]

Originally posted by Death By Jell-O
But does it?



I think most Americans would like to think so.What band is your avatar btw?

[allmykids]

Originally posted by Dr.L00MIS
I think most Americans would like to think so.What band is your avatar btw?

I was also wondering what band it was!!

[Dr.L00MIS]

It kind of looks like Doghead.

[allmykids]

Dr. Loomis, So how are you likeing it here?? Seems like your fitting Right in!!

[ChEEbA]

Hey like maybe you guys could start another thread....?

[Dr.L00MIS]

Originally posted by ChEEbA
Hey like maybe you guys could start another thread....?



Hey like so sorry to disturb you.

[allmykids]

Originally posted by ChEEbA
Hey like maybe you guys could start another thread....?

Sorry cheeb!! :(

[ChEEbA]

So much for trying to keep it polite.
If you wanna talk about shit that's not on topic, start a fucking thread of your own, ok retard?

ps - It's cool amk...I just didn't need to be bitched at about it.

[Dr.L00MIS]

Originally posted by ChEEbA
So much for trying to keep it polite.
If you wanna talk about shit that's not on topic, start a fucking thread of your own, ok retard?

ps - It's cool amk...I just didn't need to be bitched at about it.



Way to start with name calling.Are you an asshole all the time or did you reserve this honor for me?I can understand you may be offended by my sarcasm but that was hardly "bitching" at you.I felt you were a tad on the rude side for complaining about something that happens in most threads here, i understand you would like to keep your thread on topic, however.

[ChEEbA]

Just you for now...
Yeah, you - the one that couldn't "deal with" me politely requesting you from dropping "unrelated" allover my thread.

[allmykids]

Originally posted by ChEEbA
So much for trying to keep it polite.
If you wanna talk about shit that's not on topic, start a fucking thread of your own, ok retard?

ps - It's cool amk...I just didn't need to be bitched at about it.

I just get off track some times!! ;)

[Dr.L00MIS]

Originally posted by ChEEbA
Just you for now...
Yeah, you - the one that couldn't "deal with" me politely requesting you from dropping "unrelated" allover my thread.


Sorry, your post struck me as rude and if not intended I apologize.I would prefer not to get into a arguement with a senior member.I found no politeness in your post but i admit I may have taken it wrong.

[Rebel Yell]

I have always been afraid of something like that happening here. I live on the West Coast and they predict that it will happen like that here some time in the near future. It happened once in the 1700's and it was pretty bad. I dunno. Natural disasters happen for a reason but they frighten the hell out of me. When I was looking at all the pictures last night, all I could do was cry. So many children. One third of the death toll was little kids. That kills me. Now the death toll is over 70,000 and they expect it to double. Ugh. Horrible.

[42ndStreetFreak]

Natural disasters happen for a reason

No they don't. That's the point.
Forget all your Human reasoning. It's the Earth.
It has NOTHING to do with Man.
It's being doing things like this for millions of years and we just happen to be in the way now.
Forget all this very Human. clutching at some kind of logic, reasoning.

There was no 'reason' for it, there was no stopping it, nothing and nobody could have changed anything and if mankind had not been here it would have happened anyway (as it has been since the World existed).

This is an act of Nature. Man and his bullshit hang-ups, Gods and 'there has to be an answer' thinking is of no importance or validity.

[Dr.L00MIS]

Originally posted by 42ndStreetFreak
This is an act of Nature. Man and his bullshit hang-ups, Gods and 'there has to be an answer' thinking is of no importance or validity.



I agree 100% and that was the point of my NIN quote, some people can't grasp this reality.

[allmykids]

They where showing all the bodys. It really helps you understand Just how bad it really is!!

[Chainsaw Guy]

Originally posted by ChEEbA
The UN is calling it the "biggest disaster EVER"
Last I heard, the bodycount was at 26,000 and climbing, throughout India, Thailand and Sri Lanka.

Families torn from eachother by the raging water, tens of thousands killed (and I don't think they've even found half the bodies yet), and literally millions left homeless, in countries that are already poor, and heavily relied upon tourism to make a living.
This is very bad for these countries, and could be the beggining of a downward spiral if they do not receive the help they are in need of.

I actually have a friend in Sri Lanka, and it's so messed up over there that I haven't been able to find out much, at this point, I can only hope that they're ok.

Anyway, just thought I'd do my bit...there's a few charity organisations over HERE working to send what releif they can.
I'm sure there's some operating everywhere...
So, folks...whether or not you have friends or family from any of the effected areas, or hey, even if you've at some point just enjoyed a thai or indian curry, or enjoyed a holiday under the excellent hospitality they offer in these countries....if you can throw a few bucks over their way, I'm sure that even though you'll never get the personal thanks you deserve - you'd be helping someone who's just lived through worse than most of us will (hopefully) ever have to.

I'M POSTING THIS HERE AND IN "EVENTS & HAPPENINGS", as I want everyone to see it.
Apologies if you've read it twice because of this.

- B


I reallt don't give a 2 fucks

[ChEEbA]

I would've just said "2 fucks" rather than "?a 2 fucks?"
Then again, If I didn't give even one fuck, I probably wouldn't have posted, or most likely even read this thread...but hey, that's just my CRAZY way of doing things.


They where showing all the bodys. It really helps you understand Just how bad it really is!!

...And it's those bodies that are gonna start causing problems before long. Personally, I still don't think they've found more than 3/5 of the bodies yet anyway...
Some are saying that the headcount that starvation, and carrion related disease will take out could well be more than the initial drowning/battering deaths (and then there's more bodies...etc...etc), think about it, THAT many dead bodies...there's not enough people to (for lack of a better way to put this) clean it up quickly enough...and then there's the whole water contamination issue, there was a lot of filthy water in these countries, it's now allover the place...
They'll be very lucky if the initial disaster turns out to be the worst of what has happened.
Still trying to find out about my friend, it's very hard with all the confusion, and all the little sub-locations of these countries...

- B

[42ndStreetFreak]

I reallt don't give a 2 fucks

Shut up.

And if you really don't care about this in any way at all...at least care about posting such attention seeking drivel in English and not badly spelt text speak.

If what you posted does not show you up...the way you did it most certainly does.

"Ode to a moro......................" You finish it.

[I_Still_Know!]

Originally posted by 42ndStreetFreak
Shut up.

And if you really don't care about this in any way at all...at least care about posting such attention seeking drivel in English and not badly spelt text speak.

If what you posted does not show you up...the way you did it most certainly does.

"Ode to a moro......................" You finish it.

I second this. Well said.

[ChEEbA]

Well, it would kinda be "3rd" rather than second, but...I guess I was trying to keep it polite.
Agreed - Uncool...

[allmykids]

Originally posted by ChEEbA
I would've just said "2 fucks" rather than "?a 2 fucks?"
Then again, If I didn't give even one fuck, I probably wouldn't have posted, or most likely even read this thread...but hey, that's just my CRAZY way of doing things.




...And it's those bodies that are gonna start causing problems before long. Personally, I still don't think they've found more than 3/5 of the bodies yet anyway...
Some are saying that the headcount that starvation, and carrion related disease will take out could well be more than the initial drowning/battering deaths (and then there's more bodies...etc...etc), think about it, THAT many dead bodies...there's not enough people to (for lack of a better way to put this) clean it up quickly enough...and then there's the whole water contamination issue, there was a lot of filthy water in these countries, it's now allover the place...
They'll be very lucky if the initial disaster turns out to be the worst of what has happened.
Still trying to find out about my friend, it's very hard with all the confusion, and all the little sub-locations of these countries...

- B

I hope you find out about your friend soon!!

[ChEEbA]

Yeah thanks...at this point it's just a wait, it kinda sucks for both me and my girl, she's a pretty good friend...I think she'll be ok.

[urgeok]

just heard on the way into work that the estimated number of deaths so far are about 114,000

unbelievable...

and like mentioned earlier .. the effects will be far reaching ..
disease, homelessness, crime ..

apparently the Canadian government is sending 40 million for immediate relief ...

[Amalthea]

I don ´t understand it too Orangestar with the constant showings on TV.

[bwind22]

CNN says the toll is 'approaching' 150,000. That probably means it'll be there by morning. Mostly children. Its pretty sad that like an entire generation just got wiped out in a single day.

:(

[bwind22]

And how did all of the animals know to get out of the there? That's weird.

[ChEEbA]

I'm assuming the animals is something they had the good taste to leave out.
There's a LOT of dogs in sri-lanka and india, both pets and street dogs...heaps of wildlife overall in all of the countries.
It's a shame, some would've known something was up and would have escaped, but I'm certain a fair few of those would've been victims also - the bodycount is probably up there with the humans when you think about it...

I just hope they manage to contain the potential disease and infections that will become a problem otherwise.

[Amalthea]

There should had been Danish election soon, but it got cancelled after the disaster.

[EXTR3MIST]

There should had been Danish election soon, but it got cancelled after the disaster

What's the tsunami in the Indian Ocean got to do with Denmark?

To be honest I'm sick of hearing about the damn thing now - unfortunate as it was for those affected by it, if I hear another theatrically grim newsreader pleading for me to understand how terrible it all is and to give give give £££ I'm going to go and drown myself.