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movieman64
12-21-2004, 04:43 AM
Well I received a letter from an Attorney yesterday regarding our Haunted House from this past October. I cannot say it suprises me I did expect one eventually. A women is claiming her 12 year old Son has had terrifying nightmares since going through the haunt, has been unable to attend school on several occasions which has caused her to take off from work so he could sleep during the day, while it was light out. They are requesting lost wages, pay to have the kid go through counseling, and pay the Attorney fee's, or they will pursue the matter in court.

I am talking to an Attorney friend next week at his New Year's party, and he has offered to write us a letter free.

She claims that one of the actors grabbed her Son at the Texas Chainsaw/Leatherface scene, which scared him so bad the entire haunt has caused this condition.

I'm getting together some pictures of signs, and the actual signs we post about kids going through, and the fact that there are live actors who may come into contact with the patrons.

I'm hoping our past record and this evidence will make this go away, but we will see. Sure is a bummer to get this right before Christmas.

urgeok
12-21-2004, 05:02 AM
America, the land of the free, and the lawsuit.


Mommy, the house of horrors was scary !
Oh shit, I thought we were supposed to be in the house of teddy bears.


Its the mother that should be sued ..irresponsible parenting.

bloodrayne
12-21-2004, 06:05 AM
Just one more prime example of someone's refusal to accept responsibility for their own actions...This shit pisses me off more than anything else I can think of...

Ugh...I seriously have to try to restrain my anger in order to post this...

Did you drag the child, kicking and screaming, through your exhibit?...I'd be willing to bet that the mother was the one who brought the child, and/or allowed him to walk through it...So...Why isn't SHE the one who's responsible for her child's 'trauma'?

Don't you think that a mother should be familiar enough with her own child to determine whether or not he could handle an experience such as this?...If she wasn't, and she made a bad judgement call because of it, I can't imagine how that's YOUR fault...

If her child was scared, then you accomplished your goal...Your exhibit was a success...Was the mother unaware that the PURPOSE for a Halloween haunted house exhibit is to SCARE someone?.......I could just see that in court...

Irresponsible Parent: I took my child to a haunted house exhibit and it scared him
Judge: Why did you take him in the first place?
Irresponsible Parent: It was Halloween, he wanted to be scared
Judge: *

Hasn't she ever been to a haunted house?...Has she NO idea what is expected to happen?...If she was not aware of how things are done, then shame on her for allowing her child to do something that she hasn't determined the risk or safety of...The child is 12 years old...Not 5 or 6...If he were of a fragile psyche, he should never have been exposed to such a thing in the first place...Perhaps she should have taken him to a 'Mary had A Little Lamb' exhibit instead...

I'm not blaming the child, either...It's the parents who are SUPPOSED to be responsible until a child turns 18...Maybe she's just feeling guilty because she KNOWS that SHE allowed this to happen to her child...All children are different...My kids could (and DID) handle this shit when they were 5 years old, I knew them well enough to determine that not only would they be able to deal with it, but that they would also get a kick out of it, and absolutely love it...

My sister-in-law brought her 10 year-old son with us to a haunted house once when Wicked Lady was 5 years old...Freddy Kreuger went after him...He screamed and freaked out...Wicked lady laughed her ass off...She was so cute...lol...Anyway, he had nightmares for about a week after that, but my sister-in-law didn't sue anyone, nor did she take my nephew to a fucking psychiatrist :rolleyes:...Wicked Lady called him a wimp then...She STILL teases him about it sometimes, and now he's 21...It ended up being a funny memory...

I hope to hell that woman doesn't ever allow her child to watch a horror movie...Could you imagine the ridiculous lawsuits that would follow?...Yeah...We CAN imagine it...Unfortunately there are FAR too many people who will blame, movies, music, video games, television or ANYTHING for whatever ails them...

I am SO sick of this shit......But, I do have to say...This is at least something a little 'new'...I'm really sorry that it has caused you so much trouble...Just be glad that you didn't give them any coffee that they could have spilled on themselves, and I sincerely hope that you didn't provide any cookies, cupcakes, brownies or other refreshments that could have made them fat...You would have had more than one lawsuit on your hands:rolleyes: ...Yeah...I know how stupid that was...That's EXACTLY my point!

GRRRRRR!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad:



I sincerely wish you the best of luck with this..



Stupid people should be shot, and put out of OUR misery...

movieman64
12-21-2004, 06:46 AM
Thanks guys I appreciate the support. The PTO provided concessions, so hay maybe there will be more to come!

We even had a lights on walk-thru on Halloween for the younger TOT's where everything was very subdued. I'm hoping this will help our case

Haphazard
12-21-2004, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by movieman64
Well I received a letter from an Attorney yesterday regarding our Haunted House from this past October. I cannot say it suprises me I did expect one eventually. A women is claiming her 12 year old Son has had terrifying nightmares since going through the haunt, has been unable to attend school on several occasions which has caused her to take off from work so he could sleep during the day, while it was light out.

Well, sounds to me like you accomplished what you set out to do. Fucking scare people.

I have confidence that you have age warnings and such posted...so in my estimation (which counts for pretty much nothing), I think the onus is on the stupid bitch mother who took a 12 year old child to a haunted house...fully knowing that...HEY, this might be a little too scary for a 12 year old.

The only reason this pisses me off so much is because I was at a haunted amusement park this year, and this friggin' lady had like a 5-6 year old son with her who was crying and frightened the whole time. WTF???? There shouldn't even have to be any age warnings, etc. Use some common sense people.

Originally posted by movieman64
Thanks guys I appreciate the support. The PTO provided concessions, so hay maybe there will be more to come!

We even had a lights on walk-thru on Halloween for the younger TOT's where everything was very subdued. I'm hoping this will help our case

Sounds like you have all bases covered...good luck.

Vodstok
12-21-2004, 10:56 AM
Maybe fate will intervene and Texas will fall out of the sky and land on her.

urgeok
12-21-2004, 11:28 AM
or maybe she'll burn herself on a hot cup of mcdonalds coffee and the shock will damage her brain and she'll forget about you guys and just concentrate on McD's

Sedated_replica
12-21-2004, 02:55 PM
yeah... a haunted house is scary. What type of parent is she? fuckin retard

Angelakillsluts
12-21-2004, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by bloodrayne
Just one more prime example of someone's refusal to accept responsibility for their own actions...This shit pisses me off more than anything else I can think of...

Ugh...I seriously have to try to restrain my anger in order to post this...

Did you drag the child, kicking and screaming, through your exhibit?...I'd be willing to bet that the mother was the one who brought the child, and/or allowed him to walk through it...So...Why isn't SHE the one who's responsible for her child's 'trauma'?

Don't you think that a mother should be familiar enough with her own child to determine whether or not he could handle an experience such as this?...If she wasn't, and she made a bad judgement call because of it, I can't imagine how that's YOUR fault...

If her child was scared, then you accomplished your goal...Your exhibit was a success...Was the mother unaware that the PURPOSE for a Halloween haunted house exhibit is to SCARE someone?.......I could just see that in court...

Irresponsible Parent: I took my child to a haunted house exhibit and it scared him
Judge: Why did you take him in the first place?
Irresponsible Parent: It was Halloween, he wanted to be scared
Judge: *

Hasn't she ever been to a haunted house?...Has she NO idea what is expected to happen?...If she was not aware of how things are done, then shame on her for allowing her child to do something that she hasn't determined the risk or safety of...The child is 12 years old...Not 5 or 6...If he were of a fragile psyche, he should never have been exposed to such a thing in the first place...Perhaps she should have taken him to a 'Mary had A Little Lamb' exhibit instead...

I'm not blaming the child, either...It's the parents who are SUPPOSED to be responsible until a child turns 18...Maybe she's just feeling guilting because she KNOWS that SHE allowed this to happen to her child...All children are different...My kids could (and DID) handle this shit when they were 5 years old, I knew them well enough to determine that not only would they be able to deal with it, but that they would also get a kick out of it, and absolutely love it...

My sister-in-law brought her 10 year-old son with us to a haunted house once when Wicked Lady was 5 years old...Freddy Kreuger went after him...He screamed and freaked out...Wicked lady laughed her ass off...She was so cute...lol...Anyway, he had nightmares for about a week after that, but my sister-in-law didn't sue anyone, nor did she take my nephew to a fucking psychiatrist :rolleyes:...Wicked Lady called him a wimp then...She STILL teases him about it sometimes, and now he's 21...It ended up being a funny memory...

I hope to hell that woman doesn't ever allow her child to watch a horror movie...Could you imagine the ridiculous lawsuits that would follow?...Yeah...We CAN imagine it...Unfortunately there are FAR too many people who will blame, movies, music, video games, television or ANYTHING for whatever ails them...

I am SO sick of this shit......But, I do have to say...This is at least something a little 'new'...I'm really sorry that it has caused you so much trouble...Just be glad that you didn't give them any coffee that they could have spilled on themselves, and I sincerely hope that you didn't provide any cookies, cupcakes, brownies or other refreshments that could have made them fat...You would have had more than one lawsuit on your hands:rolleyes: ...Yeah...I know how stupid that was...That's EXACTLY my point!

GRRRRRR!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad:



I sincerely wish you the best of luck with this..



Stupid people should be shot, and put out of OUR misery...

I totally agree with you.

Hate_Breeder
12-21-2004, 03:17 PM
Thats absurd.

People should know not to take kids into Haunted Houses if they expect the kids not to be scared..:rolleyes:

massacre man
12-21-2004, 03:21 PM
little wuss... if you lose tell me wear he lives i'll beat him up for you i'm only a year older


haha 12 and scared of a haunted house

meetthecreeper
12-21-2004, 06:55 PM
And to think that there is some scumbag lawyer willing to take a case like this.


First thing we need to do is shoot all the lawyers.

theshadow
12-21-2004, 07:00 PM
i think we're all in agreement. if your kid is a wuss don't subject him to haunted houses. this makes me want to see your haunted house.

The STE
12-21-2004, 07:08 PM
Once you're cleared of all this (and you will), countersue her for being a dumb fuck and putting you through all this shit

Gren the cake
12-22-2004, 01:50 AM
trying to blame her failings as a parent on u

she shuold be the one being sued. i say bring her ass to moral court and have mathis teach her somethin

and while ur at it, get some money! $$$

AUSTIN316426808
12-22-2004, 02:06 AM
Originally posted by bloodrayne
Just one more prime example of someone's refusal to accept responsibility for their own actions...This shit pisses me off more than anything else I can think of...

Ugh...I seriously have to try to restrain my anger in order to post this...

Did you drag the child, kicking and screaming, through your exhibit?...I'd be willing to bet that the mother was the one who brought the child, and/or allowed him to walk through it...So...Why isn't SHE the one who's responsible for her child's 'trauma'?

Don't you think that a mother should be familiar enough with her own child to determine whether or not he could handle an experience such as this?...If she wasn't, and she made a bad judgement call because of it, I can't imagine how that's YOUR fault...

If her child was scared, then you accomplished your goal...Your exhibit was a success...Was the mother unaware that the PURPOSE for a Halloween haunted house exhibit is to SCARE someone?.......I could just see that in court...

Irresponsible Parent: I took my child to a haunted house exhibit and it scared him
Judge: Why did you take him in the first place?
Irresponsible Parent: It was Halloween, he wanted to be scared
Judge: *

Hasn't she ever been to a haunted house?...Has she NO idea what is expected to happen?...If she was not aware of how things are done, then shame on her for allowing her child to do something that she hasn't determined the risk or safety of...The child is 12 years old...Not 5 or 6...If he were of a fragile psyche, he should never have been exposed to such a thing in the first place...Perhaps she should have taken him to a 'Mary had A Little Lamb' exhibit instead...

I'm not blaming the child, either...It's the parents who are SUPPOSED to be responsible until a child turns 18...Maybe she's just feeling guilty because she KNOWS that SHE allowed this to happen to her child...All children are different...My kids could (and DID) handle this shit when they were 5 years old, I knew them well enough to determine that not only would they be able to deal with it, but that they would also get a kick out of it, and absolutely love it...

My sister-in-law brought her 10 year-old son with us to a haunted house once when Wicked Lady was 5 years old...Freddy Kreuger went after him...He screamed and freaked out...Wicked lady laughed her ass off...She was so cute...lol...Anyway, he had nightmares for about a week after that, but my sister-in-law didn't sue anyone, nor did she take my nephew to a fucking psychiatrist :rolleyes:...Wicked Lady called him a wimp then...She STILL teases him about it sometimes, and now he's 21...It ended up being a funny memory...

I hope to hell that woman doesn't ever allow her child to watch a horror movie...Could you imagine the ridiculous lawsuits that would follow?...Yeah...We CAN imagine it...Unfortunately there are FAR too many people who will blame, movies, music, video games, television or ANYTHING for whatever ails them...

I am SO sick of this shit......But, I do have to say...This is at least something a little 'new'...I'm really sorry that it has caused you so much trouble...Just be glad that you didn't give them any coffee that they could have spilled on themselves, and I sincerely hope that you didn't provide any cookies, cupcakes, brownies or other refreshments that could have made them fat...You would have had more than one lawsuit on your hands:rolleyes: ...Yeah...I know how stupid that was...That's EXACTLY my point!

GRRRRRR!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad:



I sincerely wish you the best of luck with this..



Stupid people should be shot, and put out of OUR misery...

Yeah what she said.

movieman64
12-22-2004, 03:22 AM
Jim, my friend who is the attorney reacted much the same way, "it's a haunted house, what did she think would happen?"

We are all a bit biased on this site about horror related things, I find the evening news is pretty scary for me!

I called most of the actors who helped out and told them we might need them to give a statement. I told them no one has done anything wrong, and they should actually take it as a compliment. I'm even considering asking a few patron's we know to give statements about their experience if it ever comes to that point.

I don't want to be a hypocrite and file a counter-suit because I feel the court system in our country has become an ATM for people looking for some quick cash, all because of their own irresponsibility.

AUSTIN316426808
12-22-2004, 03:29 AM
Originally posted by movieman64
Jim, my friend who is the attorney reacted much the same way, "it's a haunted house, what did she think would happen?"

We are all a bit biased on this site about horror related things, I find the evening news is pretty scary for me!

I called most of the actors who helped out and told them we might need them to give a statement. I told them no one has done anything wrong, and they should actually take it as a compliment. I'm even considering asking a few patron's we know to give statements about their experience if it ever comes to that point.

I don't want to be a hypocrite and file a counter-suit because I feel the court system in our country has become an ATM for people looking for some quick cash, all because of their own irresponsibility.

hope everything works out for you.

The_Return
12-22-2004, 08:19 AM
That woman is a moron. I think your case will be open shut.

The STE
12-22-2004, 09:37 AM
Originally posted by movieman64
I don't want to be a hypocrite and file a counter-suit because I feel the court system in our country has become an ATM for people looking for some quick cash, all because of their own irresponsibility.

I'm no 'Guy who knows about court stuff', but doesn't going to court, defendant or plaintiff, cost some money?

Also, you did nothing wrong. She's a dumb fuck who can't take care of her kid without screwing him up and then blaming someone else. Big difference

urgeok
12-22-2004, 09:39 AM
next time .. just hide the kid away until the mother leaves to go look for him, then sell him to the circus.

The STE
12-22-2004, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by bloodrayne
Don't you think that a mother should be familiar enough with her own child to determine whether or not he could handle an experience such as this?...If she wasn't, and she made a bad judgement call because of it, I can't imagine how that's YOUR fault...

She probably just sat him in front of the TV all day.

MichaelMyers
12-22-2004, 10:15 AM
That sucks. Good luck.

Vodstok
12-22-2004, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by The STE
She probably just sat him in front of the TV all day. No WAY!

I refuse to believe that a parent would do that with their child. Parents dont let tv raise their kids. What movie man and his freinds did was wrong. haunted houses hsould be filled with pleasant looking people dressed up in classic monster costumes. Dracula. Frankensteins monster. the wolf man. Ethnics.

Not frightening people from so called "horror" movies.

For shame movieman. you and your surely deserve to get sued for the evil you brought on that child.

Next stop for me: Violent media and nudity. you filthy mongrels will pay.

The_Return
12-22-2004, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by Vodstok
No WAY!

I refuse to believe that a parent would do that with their child. Parents dont let tv raise their kids. What movie man and his freinds did was wrong. haunted houses hsould be filled with pleasant looking people dressed up in classic monster costumes. Dracula. Frankensteins monster. the wolf man. Ethnics.

Not frightening people from so called "horror" movies.

For shame movieman. you and your surely deserve to get sued for the evil you brought on that child.

Next stop for me: Violent media and nudity. you filthy mongrels will pay.


Ahahahgaahahahhahahaahahahahahahhaahahahahha

Super Savior
12-22-2004, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by Vodstok
No WAY!

I refuse to believe that a parent would do that with their child. Parents dont let tv raise their kids. What movie man and his freinds did was wrong. haunted houses hsould be filled with pleasant looking people dressed up in classic monster costumes. Dracula. Frankensteins monster. the wolf man. Ethnics.

Not frightening people from so called "horror" movies.

For shame movieman. you and your surely deserve to get sued for the evil you brought on that child.

Next stop for me: Violent media and nudity. you filthy mongrels will pay. Finally, someone with some sense. :D

movieman64
12-23-2004, 04:01 AM
Originally posted by Vodstok
No WAY!

I refuse to believe that a parent would do that with their child. Parents dont let tv raise their kids. What movie man and his freinds did was wrong. haunted houses hsould be filled with pleasant looking people dressed up in classic monster costumes. Dracula. Frankensteins monster. the wolf man. Ethnics.

Not frightening people from so called "horror" movies.

For shame movieman. you and your surely deserve to get sued for the evil you brought on that child.

Next stop for me: Violent media and nudity. you filthy mongrels will pay.



lol...I'm considering becoming a Monk for the crimes I have perpetrated on this helpless victim.

As far as money goes, Jim has said he would write a letter to the other Attorney gratis. If it goes farther then that I do not really, know what will happen. My Divorce cost me out the ass, all but around $200.00 was Attorney fees.

massacre man
12-23-2004, 04:51 AM
Originally posted by movieman64
lol...I'm considering becoming a Monk for the crimes I have perpetrated on this helpless victim.

As far as money goes, Jim has said he would write a letter to the other Attorney gratis. If it goes farther then that I do not really, know what will happen. My Divorce cost me out the ass, all but around $200.00 was Attorney fees. just let me and Friday13thfan jump him
make that kid's mom think of suing someone we know again

movieman64
12-23-2004, 04:58 AM
Thanks for the offer, but you guys would probley get caught and put in a cell with Scott Peterson and Michael Jackson, and I'd never be able to live with myself...

massacre man
12-23-2004, 05:01 AM
Originally posted by movieman64
Thanks for the offer, but you guys would probley get caught and put in a cell with Scott Peterson and Michael Jackson, and I'd never be able to live with myself... i dont think Michael Jackson did it if he did we are too old for him

movieman64
01-05-2005, 09:06 AM
Well I spoke to my friend the Attorney and gave him a copy of the other Lawyers letter regarding the Women who wanted money out of the Haunted House due to her Son having nightmares, and her not working.

He said that the court would more then likely rule in our favor, (if it went that far) due to it ultimately being the responsibility of the Mother/Parent(s) to determine what was OK for their own child. He knows the other Attorney, (they all know each other) and was going to give him a call about it. He said the other guy knows this would have almost no chance in Court, and was probably just doing what he had been hired to do, hoping we would settle or make an offer out of Court. I just hope we can get this over with ASAP.

Gren the cake
01-05-2005, 11:37 AM
that is so retarded

i would hope that the judge really knocks some sense into her IF it even has to go that far!! arent several states trying to /have made legislation against this sort of CRAP? I know cali did this past election

ugh christ. i just cant believe idiots like that exist LOL. i mean its one thing to be a jackass all by urself but she honestly thinks she can bring this into a court, infront of a judge, attorneys etc and get something out of it? shiiiiiittt

urgeok
01-05-2005, 11:42 AM
and ... she's raising a child.

scary

Gren the cake
01-05-2005, 11:52 AM
lol. and to think, theres much scarier than her out there!!

the thing that gets me though is just the fact shes totally down with sharing her stupidity with everyone. id try and hide it!! especially from judges and shit, i mean to be a judge u need at least 10 years of law practice as an attorney.. and odds are the guy has been in for a while so............??

dummi :D

urgeok
01-05-2005, 11:54 AM
you are right .. there are far more morons out there 'raising' kids than there are capable person.

and its fucking difficult when you make it a priority and try to do everything right ... imagine the people who dont even put any effort into it.

well, i dont have to imagine .. i see the grown up results every day.
stupid people.

Gren the cake
01-05-2005, 11:58 AM
damn. something id love to bring up but its the big A word and i dont feel like having that discussion again LOL

:D im lazy.

neway, when im older im gona do what my parents do and take what i clal, the minimalist approach at parenting. theyve never intruded in on my life (then again, never really HAD to...), and never did the 'no, simply becuz i said so ' deal (well, i guess when i was tiny tiny, but i have friends who get that shit now)

SO. gonna hook em up wit whatever i can, give em advice wheni can but other than that let them go free. let them know they can do whatever they want in life, just be sure to look at it from all angles and realize any possible repercussions.

id rather raise a monkey that will turn evil, than to raise a robot that doesnt know why the fuck they r doing but does it anyway just cuz.. know what im sayin?

urgeok
01-05-2005, 12:54 PM
Originally posted by Gren the cake

SO. gonna hook em up wit whatever i can, give em advice wheni can but other than that let them go free. let them know they can do whatever they want in life, just be sure to look at it from all angles and realize any possible repercussions.

id rather raise a monkey that will turn evil, than to raise a robot that doesnt know why the fuck they r doing but does it anyway just cuz.. know what im sayin?

true to a point .. there is a hell of a lot of intervention when they are really small ... untill they understand that if a car runs over you .. you wont get back up like wile e coyote.

you wouldnt remember their input at that time because you were too young ..

but i totally agree with when they get older ...
the systems in place (society, school, work, etc) are all set to program your kid into being a well heeled part of a big machine.
individuality is not a prized commodity no mater what you think.

so most people are funnelled into their little channels .. wake up, go to work, come home, eat your meatloaf, watch friends and survivor, go to bed, then repeat....

I am trying to find the balance of making sure my kid understands enough not to kill himself but without hurting his creative side.
its not easy .. especially when they are small.

on the other hand ... Gren is completely off her rocker so i dont know about her folks :)

Gren the cake
01-05-2005, 01:04 PM
ohh ME how about you HmmMMMmmMM! i know some of ur disgusting secrets HAHHA!! but i dont hide mine like u hide urs! :D :D lol

anyways i have some friends that seriously, 'daddy is always right.' dont even question him, its disgusting cuz im over there doing homework, their family has no regard for her, not even me, doing our homework, telling her to do this do that. constantly berated, even over a little thing. the yuong boy, 13, yelled at for spilling milk. YELLED AT for havin an accident as most do. and of course they just giggle and shit when daddy goes crazy

anyway, it just boggles my mind that they just take it in like that.

so i will say as weird as i am, i can say that its ALL on me, im not trying to follow anyone, no role models, nobody im trying to impress (piss off maybe... :)). im self made i guess! but im i gues 'good.' when need be i can help out, get along, impress, get shit done, give advice... blah blah blah..