Categorize Yourself

[Haphazard]

There are all types of stereotypes/categories like Punk, Emo, Goth, Nerd/Geek, Druggy/Alcoholic, Jock, Raver, etc. I can't list them all.

I am a combination of a lot of things: My music taste is punk and electronica...but I'm also a jock, which is a weird combination. I also masturbate to Tom & Jerry cartoons, but I don't know what that would fit under.



So, what do you consider yourself to be?

[massacre man]

Originally posted by Haphazard
There are all types of stereotypes/categories like Punk, Emo, Goth, Nerd/Geek, Druggy/Alcoholic, Jock, Raver, etc. I can't list them all.

I am a combination of a lot of things: My music taste is punk and electronica...but I'm also a jock, which is a weird combination. I also masturbate to Tom & Jerry cartoons, but I don't know what that would fit under.



So, what do you consider yourself to be? what's emo kid?

[Haphazard]

Originally posted by massacre man
what's emo kid?

Seriously????

[Gren the cake]

im just weird

i dont fit in with anyone. that and i have a lot of problems

:)

[Haphazard]

Originally posted by Gren the cake
im just weird

i dont fit in with anyone. that and i have a lot of problems

:)

I thought you were a whore.

I mean that in the nicest possible way.

I'm not being mean...but I always thought that's what you were portraying in your posts.

[Haphazard]

Originally posted by monster-dud
Hap, I was born a ramblin man.

hahahahahahah, yeah I know.

And I am a midnight toker.

[Gren the cake]

ya thats exactly what im talking abuot. sometimes a whore sometimes a virgin

sometimes the brain sometimes the idiot

well, i guess moreso idiot than brain. but still

neway. im just weird.

[Haphazard]

Originally posted by Gren the cake
ya thats exactly what im talking abuot. sometimes a whore sometimes a virgin

sometimes the brain sometimes the idiot

well, i guess moreso idiot than brain. but still

neway. im just weird.

That's cool, though.

[Gren the cake]

Originally posted by Haphazard
That's cool, though.

:cool:

[Death By Jell-O]

I'm just me....unique....

[dr. pheobs]

lesbian punk metal head riot girrrrrrrrl.


sicko

[Haphazard]

Originally posted by dr. pheobs
lesbian punk metal head riot girrrrrrrrl.


sicko

Welcome aboard.

Can never have too many of those.

[jedicow]

i also wonder what EMO is?

anyway...my wife calls me a geek, so i guess thats it. i collect comics, star wars stuff, i love to watch cartoons, but only the old ones like the old disney cartoons or looney toons or charlie brown. i am a big fan of the lates 80s/early 90s heavy metal scene and i used to buy everything i saw which had the KISS logo stamped on it.

i also love to read novels...horror, fantasy and westerns mostly. i read star wars novels, conan, stephen king, dean koontz, bentley little, and any books about vampires, zombies and werewolves i find.

[Haphazard]

Originally posted by jedicow
i also wonder what EMO is?

anyway...my wife calls me a geek, so i guess thats it. i collect comics, star wars stuff, i love to watch cartoons, but only the old ones like the old disney cartoons or looney toons or charlie brown. i am a big fan of the lates 80s/early 90s heavy metal scene and i used to buy everything i saw which had the KISS logo stamped on it.

i also love to read novels...horror, fantasy and westerns mostly. i read star wars novels, conan, stephen king, dean koontz, bentley little, and any books about vampires, zombies and werewolves i find.

Yup, I agree with your wife.

lol.

No seriously, I don't exactly know what emo is...but I was trying to explain it in a different thread (which prompted me to make this thread...I was hoping an authentic emo could explain it).

But, anyway...this is what I was saying:

"I think everybody has a different opinion on what emo is. But emo is just a genre of punk music. I belive it is short for emotional.

So basically, it's bands that may sound like hardcore punk...but then ruin it by singing about how sad they are because their girlfriend left them."

[Angelakillsluts]

I'm not really anything.

[orez]

Today what passes as emo is mostly bullshit, its not what emo was or what the name came from. But yes it is short for emotional. and to picture an "emo kid" picture your alterna hipster for the 00's. tight pants trendy hat style of the season and tight shirts preferably thrift store, black rim glasses (though these are used all over the place) and shaggy hair must be black.

Now I fall in to that category of style of dress (minus the hat) But I'm punk/hardcore skate/snowboard guy with geek streaks since being geeky pays my bills.

for a full break down of "emo" and what it really is and its history please review
http://www.fourfa.com/

note: this is not the pre-packaged hot topic mall emo you see all the highschool kids looking like and listening to.

[knife_fight]

I hate myself for not having the willpower to resist this thread and what I'm about to say:

A brief synopsis of the history of "emo":
1. Spirit Assembly releases their first Lp in 1993, regarded by many to be the first "emo" record.
2. Most people begin referring to discordant hardcore with odd time signatures as "emo". This includes such famous DC faves as Fugazi, Hoover, and a veritable slew of other screamy bands. It's important to note that, at this point, "emo" was not a negative term. It was an emerging term to describe a type of music that was evolving out of punk and hardcore. It had absolutely nothing to do with crybabies, crying, sweaters, thick black glasses, or any of the other, now trite, stereotypes of what "emo" is.
3. Once the term got around a good bit, a LOT of people who were loosely associated with the indie music scene (i.e. fans of bands like Sunny Day Real Estate) began misusing the term, mainly because they saw some singer-dude cry on stage and thought "this must be that new "emo" thing everybody is talkin about!"

This is, by a LARGE margin, a brief synopsis of the word "emo." Basically, it's a term that was misused by a lot of people who didn't know what they were talking about and eventually it got into Spin magazine to describe some shitbag band like Taking Back Sunday or, as mentioned before, Sunny Day Real Estate. The word has had a LONG and sordid history, one that aging folks who grew up in the punk scene (such as myself) have had a hard time reconciling. Like many words, it's relative. To some, "emo" would be crybaby bands, but to some others who were involved back then, true "emo" is a brand of punk/hardcore typified by Spirit Assembly and any band released on Ebullition records in the early/mid 90s.

I honestly hate this word more than anything that has ever been leaked to the media from the music scene. And I also hate that I couldn't hold myself back from writing this post.

And I also HATE it when people label themselves or others, pigeonholing them into some bullshit genre or stereotype of person. Human beings cannot be thought of that way. I know most of you know that obvious fact, but maybe some people don't (hint hint).

[orez]

preach on brothuh, I came up the same way and hearing the word emo used today is like nails down a chalkboard. you just want to grab those kids and shake them and tell them they have no idea what they are talking about.

[knife_fight]

Originally posted by orez
Today what passes as emo is mostly bullshit, its not what emo was or what the name came from. But yes it is short for emotional. and to picture an "emo kid" picture your alterna hipster for the 00's. tight pants trendy hat style of the season and tight shirts preferably thrift store, black rim glasses (though these are used all over the place) and shaggy hair must be black.

Now I fall in to that category of style of dress (minus the hat) But I'm punk/hardcore skate/snowboard guy with geek streaks since being geeky pays my bills.

for a full break down of "emo" and what it really is and its history please review
http://www.fourfa.com/

note: this is not the pre-packaged hot topic mall emo you see all the highschool kids looking like and listening to.



That's a pretty good site. I wish you hadn't posted this while I was writing my post, then I wouldn't have had to. It's interesting that this person considers Moss Icon to be the first "emo" band. Like I said, the history of the word is extremely based on hearsay and speculation, and is the source of, as I'm sure you know, some volatile sentiments amongst some circles.

[orez]

yeah you'll certainly have the mixed opinions on "true" first band. Hell I guess you have that with any genre of music.

[meetthecreeper]

enigma

[urgeok]

Originally posted by knife_fight

I honestly hate this word more than anything that has ever been leaked to the media from the music scene. And I also hate that I couldn't hold myself back from writing this post.

And I also HATE it when people label themselves or others, pigeonholing them into some bullshit genre or stereotype of person. Human beings cannot be thought of that way. I know most of you know that obvious fact, but maybe some people don't (hint hint).

for one thing .. if you have something to say - say it. This is a forum for that very reason.

I debate this topic with friends constantly ... its interesting - especially if you are older and have seen the music genres splinter into a million different divisions the way it has since the 60's. Music has always had a very strong impact on many aspects of youth culture - fashion being the most visible.

In the 60's you had rock - (which was broken into psychedelic, country-rock, pop, and a few other styles), there was country and western, there was jazz, blues, and a few other dominant genres.
I know i've left out or forgotten a number more, but nothing like there is today ..
There is at least 10, probably a lot more, different distinct types of metal alone. And goth has split into a ton of different types ...
Names of styles withing the genres I never knew existed.

With most of these genres come a distinct style of fashion.
From before i was born, certain bands have tried to develope a look as individualistic as their music. Something they could be identified with. The Beatles is an early obvious example.
And since there was popular music, the kids/fans have always wanted to emulate the dress of those bands as a way to identify with them. This is where many - if not most - of the fashion trends come from. (i'm talking youth fashion here - not Milan runway fashion - although the music fashions will often influence haute-couture)

So - you will see kids pigionhole themselves as this or that. Its unfair to dismiss someone for labelling those that desperately wish to be labelled. (unless they dont know what the hell they are talking about - like most old people who havent been paying attention to anything for the last 40 years and still think all kids are hippies)

So many followers of certain types of music have to dress an exact way to the point where it becomes a uniform. There was a specific punk look, a specific goth look, grunge, ska, you name it.
What bristled me was twofold ... people dressing goofy to say that they were being individualistic .. when they were actually trying desperately hard to look just like everyone else in their circle, and the ones that say they dont like to be labelled - when they are trying desperately hard to look just like everyone else in their circle.
I'm not saying there is anything wrong with expressing yourself (or more to the point - expressing someone else) just dont get all defensive and sensitive if someone referes to your look as 'goth' if you are running around in the middle of summer dressed like draculas bride.
Most of the outragious fashions are done to get a rise out of the old folks anyway .. and if you kids think you're the first ones to do it .. guess again - your folks did it to your grand parents, and so on. Its a natural progression of developement .. growth through rebellion.
It kills me when i'm walking in a mall and a couple of kids in foot high blue and pink mohawks strut around looking at people daring them to get a reaction.
Most people (in Toronto anyway) are so used to it that no one cares ... I laugh at the attitude myself - not the fashion.

i guess in summary i'm saying - what the hell, if it feels good, do it.
but dont get all uppity when someone calls your spade a spade ...
After all they are just aknowledging that you achieved exactly what you set out to do.

me - i've worn converse sneakers, blue jeans, and tshirts ever since i was 5. My influence was practicality. I dont think about what i'm wearing .. i just grab the 1st thing off the pile.
Probably because my musical tastes were so diverse that i couldnt possibly dress like my influences without developing a serious multiple personality disorder or becoming incredibly broke.

[Gren the cake]

LOL its all emo stuff in the ^^^^ search lol

[newb]

I'm a beer drinking fun loving father of four 46 year old horror movie loving southern-rock-blues-jam man,video game playing immature son-of-a-bitch.










thats me...in a nut shell.:D

[ChEEbA]

I'm the guy that says FUCK YOU to any kind of categorisation, self or otherwise.
What a person "is" shouldn't be something defined simple terms, and to put it down to one word is clearly overlooking MANY factors that make us what we are.

I leave categorisation to the ignorant.

[urgeok]

Originally posted by ChEEbA

I leave categorisation to the ignorant.

that's a categorisation ...

[newb]

C'mon Cheeb....your the bad ass, rat loving rebel from down under who likes to cook.:D


Btw....whats going on with Vod.....he's never on here or his site lately.

[ChEEbA]

Fuck you.

[newb]

Looks like were getting angry Cheeb tonight.

Mellow out dude. Its the weekend.

[urgeok]

Originally posted by newb
Looks like were getting angry Cheeb tonight.

Mellow out dude. Its the weekend.


pass de dutchie on de left 'and side,
pass de dutchie on de right 'and side...

[newb]

or i prefer

I'll drive a million miles
To be with you tonight
So if you're feeling low
Turn up your radio
The words we use are strong
They make reality
But now the music's on
Oh baby dance with me yeah.

Rip it up
Move down
Rip it up
Move it down to the ground
Rip it up
Cool down
Rip it up
And get the feeling not the word.

Everybody have fun tonight
Everybody have fun tonight
Everybody Wang Chung tonight
Everybody have fun tonight
Everybody Wang Chung tonight

[Angelakillsluts]

Originally posted by urgeok
that's a categorisation ...

lol

[DraculaInDallas]

I'm just old!!!

[AUSTIN316426808]

i guess you could say i'm sheltered and arrogent actually i wouldnt exactly say arrogent i'm more like a smartass arrogant people think they're the shit and trust me that's the last thing i think.

[bloodrayne]

Now, why would anyone want to 'Categorize' themselves?

What I wear on the outside is an expression of who and what I am on the inside...I would NEVER want to be 'trendy' and I haven't a clue what the word 'fashion' means (which is obvious to anyone who knows me)...If I like something, I'll wear it, if I don't, I won't, no matter what anyone/everyone else is or isn't wearing...

@Urge...I'm basically a jeans and T-shirt person as well, mine just tend to be black because that's the color that I like the most...Just as you may choose to wear blue more than another color...I wear my 'accessories' just as someone else may wear jewelry...It's just something that I like, it doesn't matter to me if anyone else likes it...I dress for myself, and ONLY myself...

Ive been called Goth, Vampire, Witch, Freak, Crazy, Devil Worshipper, Scary, even BIKER (if you can believe that), and some not so nice things, as well...But, I am just ME. I dont fit into any box. The only thing close to a label that I will accept is 'different'...

I suppose that I can accept 'Scorpio' as a label, its pretty much the only thing that really suits me, although I have to admit 'vampire' comes close for many reasons, but probably none of the reasons you may think...Mostly just because I am pale, I have pointy teeth, I'm a night person, and I avoid the sun like the plague, simply because it doesn't agree with me, NOT because I am trying to BE a vampire...It burns my skin, makes me swell, blister and peel, it also hurts my eyes,which gives me headaches, and I simply have no energy in the daytime, it really feels like the sun drains me...I'm really hyper at night, though...People also call me a vampire when I tell them how old I am, and anyone who knows me can attest to the fact that I really haven't changed much since I was 20...I still dress, act, speak, think, feel and sound the same way as I always have...Of course I don't LOOK exactly the same, but pretty damned close...People who haven't seen me in YEARS, always say, "Wow, you haven't changed at all"...Well, they probably wouldn't say that NOW with my hair all cut off and dyed black, but always before...Yeah, I'm pretty boring...

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
Now, why would anyone want to 'Categorize' themselves?

What I wear on the outside is an expression of who and what I am on the inside...I would NEVER want to be 'trendy' and I haven't a clue what the word 'fashion' means (which is obvious to anyone who knows me)...If I like something, I'll wear it, if I don't, I won't, no matter what anyone/everyone else is or isn't wearing...

@Urge...I'm basically a jeans and T-shirt person as well, mine just tend to be black because that's the color that I like the most...Just as you may choose to wear blue more than another color...I wear my 'accessories' just as someone else may wear jewelry...It's just something that I like, it doesn't matter to me if anyone else likes it...I dress for myself, and ONLY myself...

Ive been called Goth, Vampire, Witch, Freak, Crazy, Devil Worshipper, Scary, even BIKER (if you can believe that), and some not so nice things, as well...But, I am just ME. I dont fit into any box. The only thing close to a label that I will accept is 'different'...

I suppose that I can accept 'Scorpio' as a label, its pretty much the only thing that really suits me, although I have to admit 'vampire' comes close for many reasons, but probably none of the reasons you may think...Mostly just because I am pale, I have pointy teeth, I'm a night person, and I avoid the sun like the plague, simply because it doesn't agree with me, NOT because I am trying to BE a vampire...It burns my skin, makes me swell, blister and peel, it also hurts my eyes,which gives me headaches, and I simply have no energy in the daytime, it really feels like the sun drains me...I'm really hyper at night, though...People also call me a vampire when I tell them how old I am, and anyone who knows me can attest to the fact that I really haven't changed much since I was 20...I still dress, act, speak, think, feel and sound the same way as I always have...Of course I don't LOOK exactly the same, but pretty damned close...People who haven't seen me in YEARS, always say, "Wow, you haven't changed at all"...Well, they probably wouldn't say that NOW with my hair all cut off and dyed black, but always before...Yeah, I'm pretty boring...

nicely said i've been called a bunch of dumb shit too for the way i dress i've had people call me a fag just because i have long hair. and everybody that does that kinda shit is justa asshole that needs to stop and think about how stupid it is to judge somebody by what they wear or how they wear their hair or anything else.

[ShankS]

Originally posted by Haphazard
There are all types of stereotypes/categories like Punk, Emo, Goth, Nerd/Geek, Druggy/Alcoholic, Jock, Raver, etc. I can't list them all.

I am a combination of a lot of things: My music taste is punk and electronica...but I'm also a jock, which is a weird combination. I also masturbate to Tom & Jerry cartoons, but I don't know what that would fit under.



So, what do you consider yourself to be?

none of them.

[knife_fight]

urgeok:

I'll agree with you on several points (the most of anyone so far). I agree that people dress a certain way to portray a certain image. But it doesn't stop there. Since we're talking about music, I will be the first to admit that at one time I listened to music that I honestly didn't like too much, just because it was the cool thing to be listening to. So yes, I think people do pigeonhole themselves and project themselves onto stereotypes. Life imitates art (I think).

What I don't agree with is that you seem to be saying that this makes it ok for us to categorize people. That, since they want to be thought of in a certain way, it's ok to do it. I think a good example of this would be a conversation a friend of mine and I had. He's the manager of a record store in a semi-ghetto area of Dallas. He was talking about how much he hates it that, when he sees a young black dude come in with baggy clothes and some sort of headband, that he thinks they are a drug dealer/"gangsta" and are going to steal something... so he watches them. Now, this young person might be trying to portray that EXACT image, one of a lawless drug dealer/gangster, but it's just morally not right to assume that about him.

Everyone judges everyone else, and if you say you don't, you're lying. Most people I know judge people based on their taste, or lack thereof, in the arts (music especially, but books and film and other stuff too). And since we have established that music often has a heavy influence on fashion, we can assume that most people I know judge others based merely on what they are wearing... and what that says about what they are into.

[allmykids]

One word REBEL!! I don't like being told what to do. I don't kiss ass, i can respect other peoples opinions, but i will stand my ground on what i belive to be right. I shoot straight and i will tell you right now most people don't like that. with me what you see is what you get. I don't want to be like everyone else, I love shocking people. I have been told alot to grow up. Fuck that!!

[massacre man]

Originally posted by allmykids
One word REBEL!! I don't like being told what to do. I don't kiss ass, i can respect other peoples opinions, but i will stand my ground on what i belive to be right. I shoot straight and i will tell you right now most people don't like that. with me what you see is what you get. I don't want to be like everyone else, I love shocking people. I have been told alot to grow up. Fuck that!! grow up... when you want to... DON'T BAN ME PLEASE! lol

[allmykids]

Originally posted by massacre man
grow up... when you want to... DON'T BAN ME PLEASE! lol

That will be NEVER!! LOL :D

[feral cat]

I don’t follow any kind of category, stereotype, group, music or whatever “Fools follow” … I just do my thing!

I never get why people like to put themselves in these stupid categories, I guess they are scared to stand up and be themselves!

[FairyKorpes]

Originally posted by feral cat
I don’t follow any kind of category, stereotype, group, music or whatever “Fools follow” … I just do my thing!

I never get why people like to put themselves in these stupid categories, I guess they are scared to stand up and be themselves!

But what if "themselves" are a prep, goth or a banger?

I'm just regular lol

[orangestar]

Im naturally like 85% traditional "Prep". Im a cheerleader, hang out with the popular kids, get good grades, date a varsity basketball player, wear a lot of American Eagle, listen to Justin Timberlake and Ashlee Simpson, talk about makeup, boys, hair and celebrities.

The other 15% is punk/emo-kid. I LOVE Sublime, Dashboard Confessional, and Jack Johnson. I wish I could pull off wearing a plaid skirt with hooker boots. Im a loner at times.


One thing I hate is Goth kids who think that they are original in some way. Goth is not original if you shop at Hot Topic.

And Good Charloote sucks. But one of my goth friends loved them before they came out with their shitty pop songs so she's okay. She's only cool because she dressed all in black back in the 6th grade days when people really thought she was a vampire.

I could go on with this subject for hours.

[feral cat]

Originally posted by FairyKorpes
But what if "themselves" are a prep, goth or a banger?

I'm just regular lol Well thats up to them ... pretty lame though if you can catogorise your entire personality and life in one word, but I don't really mind what people want to see themselves as!

Ps. I am English ... What the hell are "preps and bangers"?:D

[FairyKorpes]

Originally posted by feral cat
Well thats up to them ... pretty lame though if you can catogorise your entire personality and life in one word, but I don't really mind what people want to see themselves as!

Ps. I am English ... What the hell are "preps and bangers"?:D

Preppy you know lol...loafers, aligator shirts, blazers..i don't know lol. Bangers are head bangers, heavy metal lol. This is what they were both called when i was younger, i'm not to up on things now a days.:(

[newb]

Originally posted by feral cat


Ps. I am English ... What the hell are "preps and bangers"?:D


How about "bangers & mash?

http://www.teamspirit.org.uk/images/bangers.jpg

[feral cat]

Originally posted by FairyKorpes
Preppy you know lol...loafers, aligator shirts, blazers..i don't know lol. I don't think England has them ... People only wear blazers if its part of a school uniform or they are really old men!

... LOL I know what bangers and mash is though Newb, don't ever really remember eating it though!

[Angelakillsluts]

Originally posted by monster-dud
Hes under alot of stress with his new case.

lol, funny stuff.

[Haphazard]

Originally posted by newb
How about "bangers & mash?


Umm, ya wanna help me out here?

What the hell is "Bangers & Mash?"

Particularly the bangers part of it.

[Angelakillsluts]

Sausages and mashed potatoes I think.

[Haphazard]

Originally posted by Angelakillsluts
Sausages and mashed potatoes I think.

Oh, ok...I never heard of sausages referred to as bangers.

[Gren the cake]

im gonna call sausages bangeers from now on

[newb]

Originally posted by Haphazard
Umm, ya wanna help me out here?

What the hell is "Bangers & Mash?"

Particularly the bangers part of it.

* 8 large baking potatoes, peeled and quartered
* 2 teaspoons butter, divided
* 1/2 cup milk, or as needed
* salt and pepper to taste
* 1 1/2 pounds beef sausage
* 1/2 cup diced onion
* 1 (.75 ounce) package dry brown gravy mix
* 1 cup water, or as needed

DIRECTIONS:

1. Preheat the oven to 350 degrees F (175 degrees C). Place potatoes in a saucepan with enough water to cover. Bring to a boil, and cook until tender, about 20 minutes. Drain, and mash with 1 teaspoon of butter, and enough milk to reach your desired creaminess. Continue mashing, or beat with an electric mixer, until smooth. Season with salt and pepper.
2. In a large skillet over medium heat, cook the sausage until heated through. Remove from pan, and set aside. Add remaining teaspoon of butter to the skillet, and fry the onions over medium heat until tender. Mix gravy mix and water as directed on the package, and add to the skillet with the onions. Simmer, stirring constantly, to form a thick gravy.
3. Pour half of the gravy into a square casserole dish so that is coats the bottom. Place sausages in a layer over the gravy (you can butterfly the sausages if you wish). Pour remaining gravy over them, then top with mashed potatoes.
4. Bake uncovered for 20 minutes in the preheated oven, or until potatoes are evenly brown.

[bloodrayne]

Thanks a lot, Newb...Now I'm hungry...



Well...Paybacks are a bitch, huh?...lol

Hmm...A song stuck in your head for a recipe-induced craving...


Yeah...I guess that's fair:)

[I_Still_Know!]

Originally posted by Haphazard
Oh, ok...I never heard of sausages referred to as bangers.

This may help-

"Why are English breakfast sausages called bangers?

I didn't know, either, so I looked it up. Apparently it's because of their tendency to explode during cooking if they're not properly prepared."

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2004/Jul-07-Wed-2004/living/24187081.html

[Haphazard]

Originally posted by I_Still_Know!
This may help-

"Why are English breakfast sausages called bangers?

I didn't know, either, so I looked it up. Apparently it's because of their tendency to explode during cooking if they're not properly prepared."

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2004/Jul-07-Wed-2004/living/24187081.html

Well, if that's their reasoning...then I can pretty much call ANYTHING I attempt to cook a "banger."

[I_Still_Know!]

Originally posted by Haphazard
Well, if that's their reasoning...then I can pretty much call ANYTHING I attempt to cook a "banger."

LOL!!!!!!!!

Shit, that was funny!

[meetthecreeper]

One thing I hate is Goth kids who think that they are original in some way. Goth is not original if you shop at Hot Topic.


Yea no shit, Goth outerwear for all the rich kids who want to pretend that they have problems. I never knew what the fuck 'Hot Topic' was until I saw somebody mention it here and went to their website. A little pricey if you ask me, no thanks I will continue to shop at the thrift store and army surplus.

Here is something that drives me fucking nuts, before I had kids I had a 79 HD lowrider, no Jesse James special, just a beat up old chopper.

I went to Bikeweek in Daytona one year and couldnt believe the amount of morons running around on brand new bikes with leather chaps and everything else leather. Also every piece of leather clothing had HD emblems on it. Now I dont know if anyone on here rides, but HD apparel is not fucking cheap.

Me with my Wrangler jeans, cheap work boots, and one off biker shirt, I sometimes felt like I didnt fit in even with that crowd. Everyone trying to be the outlaw biker on the weekend and then going back to their cushy deskjob come mon. morning.

Thats why I say Enigma, just dont fit any category.

[Gren the cake]

then i too am an enigma

never fit in in a group in HS. got along with certain people from each group, try and put em together and it never worked lol

:) and fuck hot topic! the last pair of jeans i bought was $18, belt was $4. FUCK IT!

[Shade]

I guess I'm goth >.>;;. Called that more than anything else. Don't really hang with much of the "goth" crowd though. Lol, their no better than the sterotype "prep" clique...at least at my school...>.>;;. Besides, as soon as they found out I don't like to drink or smoke cigarettes I was sooooo uncool. I'm a complete closet geek though, shh, gotta keep that on the down low.

[urgeok]

Originally posted by knife_fight
urgeok:

I'll agree with you on several points (the most of anyone so far). I agree that people dress a certain way to portray a certain image. But it doesn't stop there. Since we're talking about music, I will be the first to admit that at one time I listened to music that I honestly didn't like too much, just because it was the cool thing to be listening to. So yes, I think people do pigeonhole themselves and project themselves onto stereotypes. Life imitates art (I think).

What I don't agree with is that you seem to be saying that this makes it ok for us to categorize people. That, since they want to be thought of in a certain way, it's ok to do it. I think a good example of this would be a conversation a friend of mine and I had. He's the manager of a record store in a semi-ghetto area of Dallas. He was talking about how much he hates it that, when he sees a young black dude come in with baggy clothes and some sort of headband, that he thinks they are a drug dealer/"gangsta" and are going to steal something... so he watches them. Now, this young person might be trying to portray that EXACT image, one of a lawless drug dealer/gangster, but it's just morally not right to assume that about him.

Everyone judges everyone else, and if you say you don't, you're lying. Most people I know judge people based on their taste, or lack thereof, in the arts (music especially, but books and film and other stuff too). And since we have established that music often has a heavy influence on fashion, we can assume that most people I know judge others based merely on what they are wearing... and what that says about what they are into.

hey there ....

i was really keeping my views on the fashion = music level ..
There is an established 'hip-hop' look that has changed and evolved as much as the lingo.
The gangsta thing in your example is more of a racial stereotype.

I dont think its cool to catagorize people in a way that is demeaning but it is a pretty clear indication of what that persons influences are ..musically.

I certainly wasnt equating my views with that of some old fart that sees someone dressed 'punk' and figures them for some squeegie kid..who'd b & e their house at the 1st chance.

I usually assume they are in bands .. to take that much trouble with the obviously premeditated fashion statement.
(the more outrageous looks pretty much guarantee that the person isnt into a mainstream line of business.).

I was once myself called a yuppie by my dads old girlfriend ...
(because i had more than one VCR !!!) I just laughed :)

I work in IT .. i'm not a nerd but people used to use that label for the field before everyone and their brother owned a computer.

Again .. i think my initial post was pretty clear that i view the 'pigeonholing' as nothing more than a recognition of the attempt to identify on a musical basis.

I cant honestly think of any identifiable youth fashion that isnt directly inspired from music ...

there may well be, i just dont know them.....

[meetthecreeper]

Originally posted by Gren the cake
then i too am an enigma

never fit in in a group in HS. got along with certain people from each group, try and put em together and it never worked lol

:) and fuck hot topic! the last pair of jeans i bought was $18, belt was $4. FUCK IT!

You are define. in a class all your own ;)

[allmykids]

The Few, The Proud, The SMARTASS!!!

[The STE]

Originally posted by Haphazard
There are all types of stereotypes/categories like Punk, Emo, Goth, Nerd/Geek, Druggy/Alcoholic, Jock, Raver, etc. I can't list them all.

I don't fit in to much of anything. Not because I'm different or any bullshit reason like that. I don't like piercings enough to be punk, I don't know what the hell Emo is, I could be goth but I don't write shitty poetry and call people conformists, I'd be a nerd/geek, except I don't get good enough grades (laziness), I quit wrestling so I'm not a jock, I don't like dancing of any kind or large groups of people so I'm not a Raver. I'd be a druggy/alcoholic, except I don't have money or access to drugs and I don't like the taste of alcohol.

So, I'm not really enough of anything to be anything. Is there a "Sarcastic asshole and closet pedophile" category?

[The STE]

*whistle* That was quick

[allmykids]

Originally posted by The STE
*whistle* That was quick

Just call me Quick Draw!!

[massacre man]

Originally posted by The STE
*whistle* That was quick the next name will probably be The STD

[allmykids]

Originally posted by massacre man
the next name will probably be The STD

I'm sure That I will be the target for awhile!! LOL!!

[ChEEbA]

Oh no....poor you....he's SOOOOO hurtful...:rolleyes:

[massacre man]

Originally posted by allmycrap
yes, you are quick to ban people for no reason.You were probably behind the last incident. bye

[allmykids]

Originally posted by massacre man
bye

OH NO YOU WHERE NOT DOING ANY THING WRONG!!!! WhatEver!!

[The STE]

Originally posted by massacre man
the next name will probably be The STD

I already had Sam.The.Egg and Sam_The_Egg

[FairyKorpes]

Originally posted by The STE
So, I'm not really enough of anything to be anything. Is there a "Sarcastic asshole and closet pedophile" category?

Closet? As apposed to the ones who do it out right?:p :mad:

[massacre man]

Originally posted by allmykids
OH NO YOU WHERE NOT DOING ANY THING WRONG!!!! WhatEver!! you know there is another thread about you right?

[FairyKorpes]

Originally posted by allmykids
OH NO YOU WHERE NOT DOING ANY THING WRONG!!!! WhatEver!!

What happened? I'm gone for like 5 minutes lol

[The STE]

Originally posted by FairyKorpes
Closet? As apposed to the ones who do it out right?:p :mad:

Yes. Oddly enough there are non-closet pedophiles. They go by the name NAMBLA

[allmykids]

Originally posted by FairyKorpes
What happened? I'm gone for like 5 minutes lol

SININAS/MONSTER DUD/ALLMYCRAP Is PISSED at me cause I banned him!!

[jay o2 waster]

Originally posted by Haphazard
There are all types of stereotypes/categories like Punk, Emo, Goth, Nerd/Geek, Druggy/Alcoholic, Jock, Raver, etc. I can't list them all.

I am a combination of a lot of things: My music taste is punk and electronica...but I'm also a jock, which is a weird combination. I also masturbate to Tom & Jerry cartoons, but I don't know what that would fit under.



So, what do you consider yourself to be? this thread is dumb

[I_Still_Know!]

Originally posted by jay o2 waster
this thread is dumb

It's been pretty popular for a dumb thread. ;)

I like it.

[theshadow]

i can't be defined by my music or how i dress. i listen to all types of music and dress like any other 44 year old woman. in high school you were either a head or a red. i was a head. there was only 2 kinds of music...rock or country and none of us listened to country. god i feel old.:(

[LilMissScareAll]

Hermit/Loner/Loser

[LilMissScareAll]

Originally posted by meetthecreeper
One thing I hate is Goth kids who think that they are original in some way. Goth is not original if you shop at Hot Topic.


Yea no shit, Goth outerwear for all the rich kids who want to pretend that they have problems. I never knew what the fuck 'Hot Topic' was until I saw somebody mention it here and went to their website. A little pricey if you ask me, no thanks I will continue to shop at the thrift store and army surplus.



Hot Topic is the best store ever. :p

[LilMissScareAll]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
Ive been called Goth, Vampire, Witch, Freak, Crazy, Devil Worshipper, Scary, even BIKER (if you can believe that), and some not so nice things, as well...But, I am just ME. I dont fit into any box. The only thing close to a label that I will accept is 'different'...


People used to call me a devil worshipper too. :o Back when my best friend(when I had a best friend) was a wiccan...everyone around here called us "devil worshippers" cause they probably knew she was a wiccan, and because we wear alot of black, and I had pink hair.
And they'd walk by me and say "EWW!" :p

[allmykids]

Originally posted by LilMissScareAll
Hot Topic is the best store ever. :p

Dam Straight!! I love it to!!

[LilMissScareAll]

Originally posted by allmykids
Dam Straight!! I love it to!!

:D I don't get to go much( I live in the middle of nowhere) but when I do, I always spend too much. :p

[Elvis_Christ]

Punk ass.........

[MichaelMyers]

I'm a loser.

[massacre man]

i'm a member
AMK is a moderator

[FairyKorpes]

Originally posted by The STE
Yes. Oddly enough there are non-closet pedophiles. They go by the name NAMBLA

Ok, care to give me the down low on wtf NAMBLA means?

[FairyKorpes]

Originally posted by allmykids
SININAS/MONSTER DUD/ALLMYCRAP Is PISSED at me cause I banned him!!

Lol that's what i mean. What did he do?

[massacre man]

Originally posted by FairyKorpes
Lol that's what i mean. What did he do? be born

[massacre man]

Originally posted by FairyKorpes
Ok, care to give me the down low on wtf NAMBLA means? Nationl Assosiation of Marlon Brando Look Alikes

[FairyKorpes]

Originally posted by massacre man
Nationl Assosiation of Marlon Brando Look Alikes

Hmmm ok:confused:

[urgeok]

Fairy is under the category of hot little sex bunny :)

[Angelakillsluts]

Originally posted by FairyKorpes
Ok, care to give me the down low on wtf NAMBLA means?

North American Man/Boy Love Associatation. Bunch of fucking freaks...

[FairyKorpes]

Originally posted by urgeok
Fairy is under the category of hot little sex bunny :)

Wanna make a fur farm?:p

[FairyKorpes]

Originally posted by Angelakillsluts
North American Man/Boy Love Associatation. Bunch of fucking freaks...

Are you serious?

[The STE]

Originally posted by FairyKorpes
Are you serious?


Yep. They have literature available on how to get away with having sex with children, which is unfortunately legal. Acting on said advice is still illegal, but having it available to read apparently isn't.



Thanks a bunch, ACLU.

[Sedated_replica]

I love the ACLU and what they do (70% of the time). But NAMBLA is fucking sick!

[Haphazard]

Originally posted by I_Still_Know!
It's been pretty popular for a dumb thread. ;)

I like it.

'zactly!

It may be a shallow thread...admittedly. But this is a fucking horror forum.

If you're looking for a thread to debate stem cell research...then look elsewhere jay...lol.

[Haphazard]

Originally posted by theshadow
in high school you were either a head or a red. i was a head

Huh?

:confused:

Please explain...

[theshadow]

heads= potheads or reds= rednecks.

[Haphazard]

Originally posted by theshadow
heads= potheads or reds= rednecks.

Ahh, thank you.

[thEsounDofdirT]

Well... I'm a horror freak, I'm into screenplay writing, I like photography... so I suppose I'm really artsy... I'm a drummer so I have a really sick sense of humor, I'm also an electronic artist - spoonPhase and also thE sounD of dirT... I like tons of music... above all.. I'm a kind person that enjoys conversation... so I dunno what I'm classified as... I just know I'm me... Sam Hodge

[Haphazard]

Originally posted by thEsounDofdirT
Well... I'm a horror freak, I'm into screenplay writing, I like photography... so I suppose I'm really artsy... I'm a drummer so I have a really sick sense of humor, I'm also an electronic artist - spoonPhase and also thE sounD of dirT... I like tons of music... above all.. I'm a kind person that enjoys conversation... so I dunno what I'm classified as... I just know I'm me... Sam Hodge

Sam Hodge...

You fucking rock!






(do you seriously make electronic music? That's cool).

[FairyKorpes]

Originally posted by The STE
Yep. They have literature available on how to get away with having sex with children, which is unfortunately legal. Acting on said advice is still illegal, but having it available to read apparently isn't.



Thanks a bunch, ACLU.

That actually made my stomach turn. So tell me, what's the difference between this is a guy who looks at child porn? I mean how many people have been arrested for having it on their computers. You would think the "How To" on fucking a child would be illegal other then looking at pictures. Which i'm not condoning either, but one doesn't seem alright where the other isn't.

[thEsounDofdirT]

yea.. my main website on in my signature...

http://www.mixposure.com/bandpage.php?bandid=69

there's a link where you can listen to my most recent stuff

if you like it.. i have a free fully downloadable album also

[Haphazard]

Originally posted by thEsounDofdirT
yea.. my main website on in my signature...

http://www.mixposure.com/bandpage.php?bandid=69

there's a link where you can listen to my most recent stuff

if you like it.. i have a free fully downloadable album also

That is some good shit, man...

Teach me...teach me...lol.

Naw, I've always wanted to fuck around with electronic music.

What program(s) do you use?

[jay o2 waster]

Originally posted by I_Still_Know!
It's been pretty popular for a dumb thread. ;)

I like it. its just the fact that catagorizing yourself is rather degrading when you think of it, to me at least

[massacre man]

Originally posted by jay o2 waster
its just the fact that catagorizing yourself is rather degrading when you think of it, to me at least ok then

[ChEEbA]

Since this has all gone random:
My cat scratched my nose yesterday...goddamn psycho motherfucker. Probably my fault, I used to mess with his head some when he was younger, YEARS ago - and I thought things were cool now, just that he didn't like me much...
See, that's another reason I prefer dogs, they won't hold a grudge more than a few minutes unless they've been abused or something...dogs RULE.

So, this is how it went down...I picked dusk up (the black psycho cat), and when I sat down with him, he hissed at me...so I'm like "fuck this" and I hissed back at him, to see if he liked it...
Evidently, he didn't.
See that's where things got fucked up, I guess he took it as a threat cos he kinda hissed/spat and took a swipe, it happened so fast I didn't even think he got me at all - I'd tried to avoid it, so what was even worse than that, was in doing so, I smacked the back of my freakin head into a wall...I stood up then, kinda booted the cat in the ass before he bolted, and saw my nose...the sonofabitch only got me with one claw, but this deep channel right across my nose.
MOTHERFUCKER.
Nothings broken, it aint gonna scar much, and/or for long...
I guess it coulda been an eye though, so, for now, the cat still lives.


There ya go, you guys can laugh at me getting my ass kicked by a cat now....
:(

[Haphazard]

Originally posted by jay o2 waster
its just the fact that catagorizing yourself is rather degrading when you think of it, to me at least

Well, if you notice...most people on here -- and most people in life -- don't pigeonhole themselves. Almost everyone is a combination of traits which span many different "categories" established by society.

All I'm saying is that just because the question was posed...doesn't mean that we are categorizing ourselves into one specific stereotype.

Some people DO readily admit that they are part of a particular group, where others realize that they cannot be categorized.

[Haphazard]

Originally posted by ChEEbA
Since this has all gone random:
My cat scratched my nose yesterday...goddamn psycho motherfucker. Probably my fault, I used to mess with his head some when he was younger, YEARS ago - and I thought things were cool now, just that he didn't like me much...
See, that's another reason I prefer dogs, they won't hold a grudge more than a few minutes unless they've been abused or something...dogs RULE.

So, this is how it went down...I picked dusk up (the black psycho cat), and when I sat down with him, he hissed at me...so I'm like "fuck this" and I hissed back at him, to see if he liked it...
Evidently, he didn't.
See that's where things got fucked up, I guess he took it as a threat cos he kinda hissed/spat and took a swipe, it happened so fast I didn't even think he got me at all - I'd tried to avoid it, so what was even worse than that, was in doing so, I smacked the back of my freakin head into a wall...I stood up then, kinda booted the cat in the ass before he bolted, and saw my nose...the sonofabitch only got me with one claw, but this deep channel right across my nose.
MOTHERFUCKER.
Nothings broken, it aint gonna scar much, and/or for long...
I guess it coulda been an eye though, so, for now, the cat still lives.


There ya go, you guys can laugh at me getting my ass kicked by a cat now....
:(

Cats do suck in that way. They're not just blindly loyal like dawgs. But, oh well...mine is loyal to me, and hates my roommate. Since she is on my side...I think it is hilarious.

[bloodygurl02]

Originally posted by Angelakillsluts
I'm not really anything.

same here. i'm in the bloodygurl class, a classification of my own.

[newb]

Some cats are cool.

http://www.anonymomma.com/cat@home.jpg

[The STE]

Originally posted by FairyKorpes
That actually made my stomach turn. So tell me, what's the difference between this is a guy who looks at child porn? I mean how many people have been arrested for having it on their computers. You would think the "How To" on fucking a child would be illegal other then looking at pictures. Which i'm not condoning either, but one doesn't seem alright where the other isn't.

The loophole is that child pornography has a very clear definition, it is when the genitalia of said child are clearly and deliberately shown, or the child is performing sexual acts. Text shows nothing, and the literature in question actually isn't any kind of porn. It's like the difference between reading the Anarchist Cookbook and actually doing stuff from it.


But yeah, the NAMBLA members should take a couple shotgun blasts to the crotch.

[thEsounDofdirT]

Originally posted by Haphazard
That is some good shit, man...

Teach me...teach me...lol.

Naw, I've always wanted to fuck around with electronic music.

What program(s) do you use?

:) well.. I've used many programs like FL Studio, Acid, ProTools, Nuendo, CoolEdit Pro, Goldwave, Reason... I like to use a combination of everything but my primary programming and sequencing is done with FL Studio... my primary recording is done with either Nuendo or Goldwave.. and my primary mastering is done with Nuendo... :)

Just takes a lot of listening.. and a lot of practice

[filmmaker2]

You see us as you want to see us; in the simplest terms, the most convenient definitions. You see us as: A Brain, a Jock, a Basketcase, a Princess........and a Criminal.

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by filmmaker2
You see us as you want to see us; in the simplest terms, the most convenient definitions. You see us as: A Brain, a Jock, a Basketcase, a Princess........and a Criminal. And who DIDN'T love 'The Breakfast Club'? :cool:

[urgeok]

Originally posted by filmmaker2
You see us as you want to see us; in the simplest terms, the most convenient definitions. You see us as: A Brain, a Jock, a Basketcase, a Princess........and a Criminal.

i knew he was a criminal the 1st day he joined.

[friday13thfan]

goth/punk/jock

[bloodrayne]

I hate the world today
You're so good to me
I know, but I can't change
Tried to tell you, but you look at me like maybe
I'm an angel underneath
Innocent and sweet

Yesterday I cried
You must have been relieved
To see the softer side
I can understand how you'd be so confused
I don't envy you

I'm a little bit of everything
All rolled into one

I'm a bitch, I'm a lover
I'm a child, I'm a mother
I'm a sinner, I'm a saint
I do not feel ashamed
I'm your health, I'm your dream
I'm nothing in between
You know you wouldn't want it any other way

So take me as I am
This may mean you'll have to be a stronger man
Rest assured that when I start to make you nervous
And I'm going to extremes
Tomorrow I will change
And today won't mean a thing

Just when you think you've got me figured out
The season's already changing
I think it's cool you do what you do
And don't try to save me

I'm a bitch, I'm a tease
I'm a goddess on my knees
When you hurt, when you suffer
I'm your angel undercover
I've been numbed, I'm revived
Can't say I'm not alive

You know I wouldn't want it any other way

[urgeok]

i never really fit into one category or another ..
and its been a bit of a dilema ... not so much now as it was when i was a teen because most teens naturally feel an inherent need to belong to one group or another - something they can identify and derive support from while they are developing emotionally.

I was always into team sports, and pretty decent at them .... but i didnt like jocks. Couldnt relate to muscleheads on any level other than the love of playing the game.
I was always into art .. spent a lot of time in the class (discovering my limitations unfortunately) but i found most of the art-posers to be just as imbalanced as the jocks.
I enjoyed a party but wasnt a drunk .. i mostly saw them as a way to meet girls ..(but as i never approached any i wasnt too successful unless they approached me :)
So i wasnt a partier .. didnt do drugs, drank occasionally ...
Lots of people i knew were heads but i wasnt.
I was always a smart kid .. could hold my own on any subject - pretty decent iq (for what thats worth) but i didnt like the pseudo-intellectuals.

I tried to get along with everyone but i had no qualms about telling someone they were an asshole, be it the captain of the football team, or the most popular princess in the school.

Since i was having problems at home it would have been nice to have had a 'support group' like the ones above but it never felt natural for me to limit myself to one kind of friendship over another.

So it was weird ... weirder still when my friends all did get together because it was a very diverse group.

I was going to say that things are easier now that i'm older but its not. Upon reflection i realize that adults do the same thing .. there are still noticable divisions. Usually based on the social stratus. What do you do for a living, how much money do you make, do you have kids, do you act your age.

I'm 43 but i find that i dont have much in common with most of the people my age. I wanted a house so i am forced to live in suburbia. I care about the future of my family so i'm forced to work in some soul sucking job for finantial stability.
I am surrounded by people who watch survivor and friends at night and make homophobic and racist jokes.

The friends i value most are my more 'bohemian' friends who generally live downtown and are either writers or musicians.
Although i can meet them on many levels I myself cannot play an instrument so that important connection is missing.

I do all the work around the house myself .. i'm handy. On the surface i look like a normal responsible suburban dad but i have artistic leanings (just no talent)

I have a few obsessions that people my age generally dont hav .. music/movies/literature.
I love to collect things .. especially movie related toys .. i love pop culture. Most of my peers could give 2 shits for these things.
Their goals are to have the best SUV/plasma screen/lawn on the street.
(a plasma screen for watching friends .. and occasionally Top Gun)


I guess in summary i really dont fit into any niche and although it looks tempting at times, its not a natural thing for me to do.
(this is why many people turn to religion by the way)
I dont believe in that either.

So - i still enjoy my sports, my music/movies/literature, my tinkering around the house .. but most of all, my immediate family which would be my wife and 4 year old son.

We are probably going to be known as the family that doesnt fit in ..but as far as we are concerned - if it works for us, we're into it .. if not .. then dont expect us to do it just because its the social norm.


wow, i feel like i just took my pants off in public ..
back to work.

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by urgeok
We are probably going to be known as the family that doesnt fit in ..but as far as we are concerned - if it works for us, we're into it .. if not .. then dont expect us to do it just because its the social norm.And that would make you fit in with US...lol......Irony rocks :cool:

[juanhacko]

I don't fit into any category either.

61 years old--most of my friends and quasi-contemporaries are in their 30's and 40's.

I don't seem to have any of the interests of people my age--Cannot imagine myself driving a motorhome cross country--had much rather tour on a motorcycle.

Work with people trying to learn to live clean and sober without alcohol or drugs--I'm a recovering addict--clean and sober for 14 years this month.

Most of the people I work with are HIV positive--I'm negative.

I have two surviving family members--a 94 year old uncle by marriage and a half-brother. Uncle is still able to walk around--but his mind is shot.

I suppose I should mention that I am homosexual--so is my half brother--but he and I have very little in common--and we both live in the same town.

I seem to get along with straight folks--I have more straight fiends than gay ones.

I hate most sports--unless I can participitate--such as rollerblading--which i still do.

I learned to turn on the computer at the library about 1 1/2 years ago--then I built one up from a dead one--learned to use it--and here I am.

I have a BBA, and I am an electrician--most addicts have more careers than most people have jobs.

And I really miss hearing from you guys when I don't have time to sign on for a few days--which is now.

If I don't get to say so again have HAPPY HOLIDAYS!

[urgeok]

Originally posted by juanhacko
Work with people trying to learn to live clean and sober without alcohol or drugs--I'm a recovering addict--clean and sober for 14 years this month.






congrats and keep fighting the good fight

[Haphazard]

Originally posted by urgeok
wow, i feel like i just took my pants off in public ..
back to work.

Wow! I can't believe I just read that whole thing.

by the way...put your pants back on! No wonder you're not accepted by your peers! Ya can't just get naked at a moment's notice! It's just weird.

:D

[Haphazard]

Originally posted by juanhacko
I don't fit into any category either.

61 years old--most of my friends and quasi-contemporaries are in their 30's and 40's.

I don't seem to have any of the interests of people my age--Cannot imagine myself driving a motorhome cross country--had much rather tour on a motorcycle.

Work with people trying to learn to live clean and sober without alcohol or drugs--I'm a recovering addict--clean and sober for 14 years this month.

Most of the people I work with are HIV positive--I'm negative.

I have two surviving family members--a 94 year old uncle by marriage and a half-brother. Uncle is still able to walk around--but his mind is shot.

I suppose I should mention that I am homosexual--so is my half brother--but he and I have very little in common--and we both live in the same town.

I seem to get along with straight folks--I have more straight fiends than gay ones.

I hate most sports--unless I can participitate--such as rollerblading--which i still do.

I learned to turn on the computer at the library about 1 1/2 years ago--then I built one up from a dead one--learned to use it--and here I am.

I have a BBA, and I am an electrician--most addicts have more careers than most people have jobs.

And I really miss hearing from you guys when I don't have time to sign on for a few days--which is now.

If I don't get to say so again have HAPPY HOLIDAYS!

Ok, but looks like jaun here has got you beat, urge. I mean, he pulled his pants down...then proceeded to rub his ass all up and down the carpet.

Oh, and happy holidays to you too, Juan.

Good game. (regarding being sober).

[urgeok]

what can i say ... us older guys have no shame :)

[juanhacko]

And my eye color changes with which ever pair of contacts I pick up in the morning--including Wolf Eyes and Alien Eyes.