View Full Version : where's the horror...?
PeeMonster
11-21-2004, 07:37 PM
hi. i am PeeMonster....
lately i found i cant relly enjoy horror movies...
i've been looking for the right one, but it seem nothing has the proper 'bite'.
i really like to get scared...
the grudge was not scary....
the thing was cute.
i seen saw...
it was very technical and interesting but.... i wouldnt say i was horrified... a lot of the time, i was giggling at the doll riding the bike...
i tried watching Scream 3... the suspense was amazing.. but you know... the sense of its outdated, bad acting, whatever...
i have yet to find my true horror.
chuckie movies have become more comedy than scarey.
same with freddy vs. jason.
it seems they just want make people laugh rather than scare....
or have i just gon entirely numb?
if anyone can recommended a not-outdated, suspenseful, well executed horror film, i will be the happiest monster on the planet.
Love Always,
Pee<3
Fred Krueger
11-21-2004, 07:42 PM
It's hard to find a horror movie that will actually "scare" anyone who is used to them, it's just not possible anymore.
You can, however, find some enjoyable horror films that are more gritty and not the usual overdose of comedy. There's a difference between some comedy elements and too much.
anyway, try the Ginger Snaps series. Takes a fresh look at the werewolf myths and is not the usual fare, especially the third installment. I also thoroughly enjoyed Jeepers Creepers, although you will find the second one to be more "Hollywood".
Hope that helps
bloodrayne
11-21-2004, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by Fred Krueger
It's hard to find a horror movie that will actually "scare" anyone who is used to them, it's just not possible anymore.I'm afraid this is true...However, Dog Soldiers fucking ROCKED...and I absolutely LOVED May, for sooo many reasons...Not scary, though...Sorry...
MichaelMyers
11-21-2004, 08:24 PM
"PeeMonster"?
urgeok
11-22-2004, 01:57 AM
there are disturbing horrors
there are 'effectively done' horrors
There are atmospheric horrors ..
but i havent been scared since the face hugger popped onto John Hurt's helmet in Alien ... and that wasnt actually scared .. that was startled.
I dont find any movie scary ... havent for years.
Once you hit the wall ... a combination of knowing what to expect, and the constant realization that 'it's just a movie'
.. i think its impossible to be scared at a movie again.
Its part of the jaded world of growing up.
and yeah ...'peemonster' ?
who calls themselves peemonster ?
people who like to be peed on ?
Or people who do the peeing ?
FairyKorpes
11-22-2004, 07:22 AM
This PeeMonster is one talented writer/artist. The one that should actually be pimping her site cause it is actually worth looking at.
There are 3 pieces i want so bad lol
But you all should look and read some of her stories, amazing. And she is so young lol.
Sorry but, i really like her stuff.
urgeok
11-22-2004, 09:00 AM
Originally posted by FairyKorpes
This PeeMonster is one talented writer/artist. The one that should actually be pimping her site cause it is actually worth looking at.
There are 3 pieces i want so bad lol
But you all should look and read some of her stories, amazing. And she is so young lol.
Sorry but, i really like her stuff.
I figured she was young...it's us long in the tooth jaded fans who cant be scared anymore but judging from her complaint - she's about to cross that bridge as well..
too bad .. i remember being scared many years ago - and it was fun.
Now my fears centre around my child - should anything bad ever happen to him.
Movie scares are far more fun than the adult fears.
TheOmen
11-22-2004, 11:59 AM
Jacobs Ladder is a little disturbing. I'm assuming you have already seen The Shining. You know what? Nothing is really scary anymore. It kind of sucks. How about Suspiria? Or The Beyond? Give them a try if you can stand dubbed english.
urgeok
11-22-2004, 12:01 PM
i collect italian horror ..
they are fun and atmospheric but anything but scary.
TheOmen
11-22-2004, 12:11 PM
In comparison to what was mentioned, they're downright horrifying. But yeah, I guess nothing is scary. But you never know, being young , PeeMonster may find them a little chilling. Some people , less jaded I suppose, find Suspiria very scary.
I too agree with everyone's comments about being jaded, being older etc... and movies not being as scary. But sometimes I find that I can get closer to being scary when I want to be. Force myself to suspend disbelief instead of telling myself "its only a movie" I find scary movies more fun that way anyhow. Trying to think of myself as if I'm in the movie instead of just watching it helps too.
getting a little more off topic, I find a really well done score can totally take a scary movie to the next level. like suspiria that was mentioned earlier, one of the scariest sound tracks ever probably. just hearing it with out seeing the movie kinda gives me the creeps.
TheOmen
11-23-2004, 12:44 PM
getting a little more off topic, I find a really well done score can totally take a scary movie to the next level. like suspiria that was mentioned earlier, one of the scariest sound tracks ever probably. just hearing it with out seeing the movie kinda gives me the creeps.
I agree totally. Halloween, Suspiria, The Shining and The Omen all excel in terms of the score. It makes the movie that much better and draws you into the movie. By the way, the Suspiria special edition comes with the Goblin soundtrack CD. It is brilliant.
urgeok
11-23-2004, 12:58 PM
there isnt a single movie in existance that doesnt rely on the soundtrack to get its scares ..
(except maybe blair witch ?)
which i didnt find scary either .. effective but not scary.
i think once you turn the corner nothing can scare you .. even suspending your disbelief.
its a shame though ...
The STE
11-23-2004, 01:47 PM
Just because a movie doesn't scare you doesn't mean its bad. The Exorcist isn't scary, that doesn't mean it's not a great movie. It is. Instead of seeking out movies that will scare you, just go after the good ones. You can still appreciate stuff like quality direction, cinematography, acting, and atmosphere
urgeok
11-23-2004, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by The STE
Just because a movie doesn't scare you doesn't mean its bad. The Exorcist isn't scary, that doesn't mean it's not a great movie. It is. Instead of seeking out movies that will scare you, just go after the good ones. You can still appreciate stuff like quality direction, cinematography, acting, and atmosphere
exactly ... they are few and far between but there are some excellent origional horror films worth seeking out.
Maybe you'll get your scares when you see how much $$$ they'll cost you :)
TheOmen
11-23-2004, 03:04 PM
Nobody was saying these films are bad. Simply stating they're not scary, which was the topic of discussion. Each movie I mentioned ranks among my favorite movies, not just horror, but movies of all time.
there isnt a single movie in existance that doesnt rely on the soundtrack to get its scares ..
(except maybe blair witch ?)
I disagree somewhat. There are some horror movies where the whole soundtrack is rock music, but they still mantain a few scares. And doing it in the sndtrk and attempting it are two different things. Shining, Omen, Halloween and Suspiria are by far the best, and most effective
The STE
11-23-2004, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by urgeok
there isnt a single movie in existance that doesnt rely on the soundtrack to get its scares ..
(except maybe blair witch ?)
And The Birds. And the one part in Wait Until Dark
IDrinkYourBlood
11-23-2004, 03:33 PM
I only have one request.
Please stop posting these posts. How many have we had allready about "im not scared anymore, what are scray movies these days that i can watch, but they most scare me." Honestly people a truely scary movie for horror fans is a myth, a legend, the average horror fan has seen it all and will not be scared, well thats not true, i did get scared of TCM(original) fun times. But seriously no more threads like this PLEASE.
urgeok
11-23-2004, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by TheOmen
I disagree somewhat. There are some horror movies where the whole soundtrack is rock music, but they still mantain a few scares. And doing it in the sndtrk and attempting it are two different things. Shining, Omen, Halloween and Suspiria are by far the best, and most effective
I know what you mean about the rock soundtracks .. (like Demons,.. hell like most of the newer italian horrors)
but still .. when the shocks come incidental music is playing ...
There is always a score .. as well as the soundtrack.
it will usually build, then stop dead .. just before the blast ..
It is the sudden absence of the music that builds the anticipation.
Sure there are more than the one example i stated (of movies that have found other ways to scare you) .. but not many more ..
And jumping isnt scaring .. thats startling..
The Forgotton had a moment .. holy crap .. i knew what was coming but it was so effective i jumped a foot off of my seat.
But i didnt feel fear ...
TheOmen
11-23-2004, 08:34 PM
i did get scared of TCM(original) fun times. But seriously no more threads like this PLEASE.
The most anxious I ever felt was during the chase at the end of TCM. It still gets me going when I watch it. I think it may be the most terrifying moment in horror. Off the top of my head anyway.
I have to say that I still get chills with certain movies...The Shining is one example. If a movie gives me chills, I'm satisfied at this point in my life.
IDrinkYourBlood
11-24-2004, 06:06 PM
Originally posted by TheOmen
The most anxious I ever felt was during the chase at the end of TCM. It still gets me going when I watch it. I think it may be the most terrifying moment in horror. Off the top of my head anyway.
I have to say that I still get chills with certain movies...The Shining is one example. If a movie gives me chills, I'm satisfied at this point in my life. exactly, o and that noise at the beggining of TCM has to be the scariest nois in the world to me
EXTR3MIST
11-29-2004, 10:25 AM
The Exorcist isn't scary
Maybe you didn't see it as a child - Regan's decomposing face, yellow eyes and jolting bursts of speaking in a man's voice are all terribly chilling.
Rock music in Italian horror!
Argento at least has the balls (probably against all production advice) to hit us with some of the heavy stuff when we least expect it - poor dead Donald Pleasance carried away to blasting Motorhead in Phenomena? Top stuff.
DeathLord
11-29-2004, 01:36 PM
my friend dustin is unable to watch horror movies because he is easily scared, but me, I get scared sometimes.
you may laugh If I told you this but when I watched Halloween IV I couldn't sleep for a week:( I got used to the series
but a movie that if really scarey is the 2003-2004 version of the Texas Chainsaw Masacure and 13 ghosts.
they were both really scarey the 1990's version of the Texas Chainsaw Masacure version was funny.
urgeok
11-29-2004, 01:47 PM
you might want to consider a name change in light of the recent admittal ..
to ..... well lets see ....
scrapelord, or skinnedkneelord ....
work your way up to death ...
TheOmen
11-29-2004, 02:06 PM
but a movie that if really scarey is the 2003-2004 version of the Texas Chainsaw Masacure and 13 ghosts.
Thirteen Ghosts? Good God! ...too each his own I guess...
The_Return
11-29-2004, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by urgeok
The Forgotton had a moment .. holy crap .. i knew what was coming but it was so effective i jumped a foot off of my seat.
But i didnt feel fear ...
Holy shit! A moment? Fuck, more like 5! Still, not scary. Still an awesome movie tho, I loved it.
As far as the topic goes, Ive been scared once, and once alone. Most of the movie was boring as fuck, but the last 15 or some min, the tension waas enough to provoke a glimmer of fear deep inside of me. The Blair Witch Project, and I am now eternally greatefull to that movie.
No, I think I have also become immune to actual scares in a movie. TCM, Exorcist, Psycho, Halloween....All awesome, but scary? No.
EXTR3MIST
11-30-2004, 04:51 AM
you may laugh If I told you this but when I watched Halloween IV I couldn't sleep for a week
Not at all - this is the best sequel to the original; scary, unpredictable, gory (and even toned down before its release by the distributors) and with a pounding update of Carpenter's unnerving theme tune.
slasherman
11-30-2004, 04:56 AM
I also think Halloween 4 is a good sequel...but scary ? No :eek:
EXTR3MIST
11-30-2004, 05:07 AM
Tell me what film you find scary, then.
slasherman
11-30-2004, 05:18 AM
Ringu, The Phone.....
EXTR3MIST
11-30-2004, 06:29 AM
Vell ansver it then!
slasherman
12-01-2004, 05:20 AM
Originally posted by EXTR3MIST
Vell ansver it then!
I just answered your question.....if you can read though...
EXTR3MIST
12-01-2004, 05:44 AM
Phone gag - forget it.
Halloween 4 has some very nice moments, with some clever framing and horror timing in it one could say might amount to being scary.
Point is; with firm direction, good old fashioned bogey men running around outdoors could still cut the mustard back in 1988 - perhaps only psychological horror can be deemed as truly scary today.
slasherman
12-01-2004, 05:50 AM
Originally posted by EXTR3MIST
perhaps only psychological horror can be deemed as truly scary today.
I still think slasher movies can be scary...and i really like Halloween 4....its a true slasher classic :D
Part of the problem with slasher films lately is they use disposable characters. You're not scared for yourself when you watch a movie, but for the characters you relate to. If the only people killed are the stereaotypes of the Sheriff, the town slut, the village idiot and the jock, who cares. You know the main couple will get through it OK. Set up a cast of characters an audience can identify with and kill off the one everyoen thinks will outlive the rest first and you can keep people guessing for 45 minutes or so as the rest of the characters fall victim.
MichaelMyers
12-01-2004, 02:12 PM
Halloween 4 > Halloween 2
urgeok
12-01-2004, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by ADOM
Part of the problem with slasher films lately is they use disposable characters. You're not scared for yourself when you watch a movie, but for the characters you relate to. If the only people killed are the stereaotypes of the Sheriff, the town slut, the village idiot and the jock, who cares. You know the main couple will get through it OK. Set up a cast of characters an audience can identify with and kill off the one everyoen thinks will outlive the rest first and you can keep people guessing for 45 minutes or so as the rest of the characters fall victim.
yep, lack of character developement and predictability ..
you dont see a slasher movie to be scared .. just to have a laugh at some special effect kills (hopefully)
slasherman
12-03-2004, 04:19 AM
Originally posted by urgeok
yep, lack of character developement and predictability ..
you dont see a slasher movie to be scared .. just to have a laugh at some special effect kills (hopefully)
It started out scary....Psycho....cause i really think people got scared when they watched it back then...
It had strong characters and good plot twists....
... i hope slashers in the future have strong characteres and twisting plots....but i guess you gonna have both...
It is easy for a first time director to try out the slasher genre...you dont need a high budget and you dont need expensive good actors (anyway.... they think so...)
slasherman
12-03-2004, 04:20 AM
Originally posted by slasherman
...you dont need a high budget and you dont need expensive good actors (anyway.... they think so...)
EXTR3MIST
12-03-2004, 06:36 AM
Set up a cast of characters an audience can identify with and kill off the one everyoen thinks will outlive the rest first and you can keep people guessing for 45 minutes or so
Yes, Psycho and Night of the Living Dead made the audience shift in their seats by killing off the presumed hero/heroines early in the film.
Once everything isn't so predictable, we have the viewers' full attention.
Steve_Hutchison
12-03-2004, 09:49 AM
If you want to be scared, you have to work on it. Be alone, turn off the lights, lit a candle, smoke weed and be open-minded.
slasherman
12-04-2004, 10:57 AM
Originally posted by Steve_Hutchison
If you want to be scared, you have to work on it. Be alone, turn off the lights, lit a candle, smoke weed and be open-minded.
:D :cool:
Gruesome
12-06-2004, 11:27 AM
I think it is just HARDER to scare anyone anymore....the movies are not LESS scary...real life is just MORE scary....unfortunately...the MPAA keeps filmakers from keeping up....
slasherman
12-06-2004, 11:32 AM
Originally posted by Gruesome
I think it is just HARDER to scare anyone anymore....the movies are not LESS scary...real life is just MORE scary....unfortunately...the MPAA keeps filmakers from keeping up....
Maybe we are to old ?...watched to many movies ?
I hope not....
EXTR3MIST
12-06-2004, 11:34 AM
Speak for yourself.
I still get the chills - as the man said before, turn the lights off and eliminate any distractions.
TheOmen
12-06-2004, 11:39 AM
I think it is just HARDER to scare anyone anymore....the movies are not LESS scary...real life is just MORE scary....unfortunately...the MPAA keeps filmakers from keeping up....
That's true to an extent. However, the goriest movies are not the scariest , at least to me. A movie becomes more comical when there is over-the-top gore. Movies like The Excorcist, The Shining, Halloween , Suspiria etc rely on suspense far more than blood and guts, and they are amongst the most chilling movies ....so we have become more desensitized, but I don't think the MPAA not allowing the upping of gore is the problem. I think you get to an age and scares just don't happen anymore. Getting chills is sufficient for me now
Gruesome
12-06-2004, 12:12 PM
Getting chills is sufficient for me now
I prefer my chills mixed with a little gratuitous violence! :D
Amalthea
12-06-2004, 12:20 PM
I think that modern horror is missing something, and they are not as memorable as the classic ones, but is there any DVD rentals I have missed?
It's not easy, neigh, nearly impossible, for a Horror film fan with tenure to find a movie that will actually scare him/her. You may get startled...a jump here or there...but to actually find a movie that causes you to sleep with your lights on...you know...head under the covers scared, is next to impossible. Try getting a phsycological thriller that deals with the same kind of deap rooted fears that you may have, drowning, buring alive, buried alive etc... at least you may crank out a half-assed decent nightmare.
Horror movies effect everyone differently. The Exorcist (My favorite) scared the living hell out of some seasoned horror film fans, but didn't touch others.
Half the fun of a horror movie is the atmosphere surrounding you; Lights off-darkness except for the tv, sound up, no interruptions and proper viewing angle means alot. Watch it alone!
Good luck in your hunt!