confession

[g star]

i tried to watch the original dawn of the dead the other night and i was totally bored. i made it through maybe 45 minutes before i shut it off. i realize it's a classic and every true horror fan loves it so.... what's wrong with me? does it get better as it goes along? does it take repeated viewings to truely appreciate it? i love all horror movies, i really do, from the great to the absurd. but DOTD, which some consider the best of all time, i just couldn't get into. am i nuts? advice please.

jaded horror fan.

[newb]

You may or may not be "nuts", I don't know you personally....have you ever tried to eat bugs....or kill a family member?

As far as the movie goes.....to be honest, I just watched this one myself a couple of weeks ago and it is a little dated. Still a great movie and if you never saw it, you should give it a chance. The problem is with the younger crowd, you have been CGIed to death with the current crop of "horror movies" so you may not appreciate the simpler good old fashioned effects.

Although the remake is also quite good and it doesn't look like they used too much CGI.

[bwind22]

Originally posted by g star
i tried to watch the original dawn of the dead the other night and i was totally bored. am i nuts?

Yeah.

[MichaelMyers]

What's not to like?

[The_Return]

It really picks up once the Raiders get there....but Itz awesome anyway!

[feral cat]

Originally posted by The_Return
It really picks up once the Raiders get there....but Itz awesome anyway! ... it really picks up the second it starts, because this is the greatest movie in the Zombie sub genre!!!!

10/10 ... the best in the sub genre!!!!! (http://shadowfaxmedia.co.uk/forum/kb.php?mode=article&k=17&sid=9ba505ba0a833274d0afca7b77e220ce)

[ichi the killer]

Originally posted by g star
i tried to watch the original dawn of the dead the other night and i was totally bored. i made it through maybe 45 minutes before i shut it off. i realize it's a classic and every true horror fan loves it so.... what's wrong with me? does it get better as it goes along? does it take repeated viewings to truely appreciate it? i love all horror movies, i really do, from the great to the absurd. but DOTD, which some consider the best of all time, i just couldn't get into. am i nuts? advice please.

jaded horror fan.
You should just stick to the classics like, Resident Evil 1 & 2, also check out House of the living dead thats what all zombie films should be like.

[yourlastmistake]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by newb
[B] The problem is with the younger crowd, you have been CGIed to death with the current crop of "horror movies" so you may not appreciate the simpler good old fashioned effects.

Exactly, you have to take in consideration when the movie was made. It's probably more appreciated by older horror fans, like myself.

[Preacher]

Originally posted by ichi the killer
You should just stick to the classics like, Resident Evil 1 & 2

Piss take or what???

Ash

[urgeok]

Originally posted by ichi the killer
You should just stick to the classics like, Resident Evil 1 & 2, also check out House of the living dead thats what all zombie films should be like.


please tell me that that was a joke ?

[ichi the killer]

Originally posted by urgeok
please tell me that that was a joke ?
Of course it was a joke. Sorry if it was over your heads. Its called sarcasim or sense of humour that us Brits are famous for.

[urgeok]

Originally posted by ichi the killer
Of course it was a joke. Sorry if it was over your heads. Its called sarcasim or sense of humour that us Brits are famous for.

thank god ...i understand sarcasm but i was worried that wasnt it :)

there are huge wars raging on IMDB with little kids defending those movies.

[Preacher]

Originally posted by ichi the killer
Of course it was a joke. Sorry if it was over your heads. Its called sarcasim or sense of humour that us Brits are famous for.

You'd be suprised how many Bennies on here would seriously say a statement like that.

Ash x

[ichi the killer]

Originally posted by Preacher
You'd be suprised how many Bennies on here would seriously say a statement like that.

Ash x
Yeah you re right, i just love those posts " whats you're favourite friday 13th" Hav'nt these lame fucks seen any thing else?
My nephew thinks resident evil is brilliant & dotd is shit! I can forgive him though he's only 14 years old.

[ichi the killer]

Originally posted by urgeok
thank god ...i understand sarcasm but i was worried that wasnt it :)

there are huge wars raging on IMDB with little kids defending those movies.
I'm sorry if its obvious, but whats IMDB?

[EXTR3MIST]

In My Delectable Bum.

[EXTR3MIST]

or Internet Movie DataBase

[urgeok]

Originally posted by ichi the killer
Yeah you re right, i just love those posts " whats you're favourite friday 13th" Hav'nt these lame fucks seen any thing else?
My nephew thinks resident evil is brilliant & dotd is shit! I can forgive him though he's only 14 years old.


you might want to give some consideration to beating him with an aluminum baseball bat (get the no-slip grip) until he changes his mind about that.

14 years old is no excuse !

[ichi the killer]

the poor deluded boy even thought AVP was better than ALIENS! personally i blame the parents.

[urgeok]

i'd just love to know what bands he think 'rule'

[ichi the killer]

Originally posted by urgeok
i'd just love to know what bands he think 'rule'
He hates sex pistols & green day because it was "BUSTED" who invented punk rock not sure if you've got BUSTED in canada, you don t know how lucky you are.

[urgeok]

Originally posted by ichi the killer
He hates sex pistols & green day because it was "BUSTED" who invented punk rock not sure if you've got BUSTED in canada, you don t know how lucky you are.


i've seen the name around on a UK enteratinment site ..
they seem to be generally hated .. along with some band called mcfly ?

hates the pistols eh ?
thats a good reason for a beating right there.

Although he shows some sense in his feelings toward Green Day - a band I always despised. (as being a Knack clone)

ahhh youth today .. what's to be done with them ?

[filmmaker2]

I'm only gonna go on a rant like this once. Well, no, I already went on a rant like this before, so this is time #2. But bear with me:

I know there's a lot of people on this forum that haven't seen the older stuff. People who really have been CGI'd to death. People who don't remember that the "Star Wars" films didn't feature digital creatures, originally. But really, do yourself a favor, and watch some old films. Go back to the 20's and see "Nosferatu" and "Cabinet of Dr. Caligari." (Heck, go back farther than that and see some of Georges Melies' films. See "The Great Train Robbery," too.) See the Universal horror classics of the 30's and 40's. And try to imagine how completely scared and freaked out the audiences of those times were. Because they were. And these films are all still legit.

These "old" films are all still effective--if you can place yourself in the mindframe OF THE AUDIENCES OF THE TIME. If you can do that, you will see that horror films have a tapestry of marvelous history. Today came out of yesterday. Yes, do yourself a favor and see some nice old films. It takes an effort to do the research, the homework. And it also costs money. But it's worth it. The craftsmanship of these older films is, I'm sorry to say, better than the majority of what is being made today.

Nowadays horror films tend to rely on 1. Loud noises on the cool digital soundtrack. 2. Startling MTV-style flash cutting--boring as hell. 3. Media hype that convinces you that the film is good before you even see it.

"Dawn of the Dead," back when it came out, freaked out audiences very seriously. It gave some people nightmares. Many, many people were shocked and startled, because they hadn't seen anything like it before. And it was good.

That's my rant! Wishing everyone a great holiday season!

[filmmaker2]

That's funny, I thought everyone would be throwing books at my head and screaming, "Get outta here, ya pedantic bastid!" by now.

[IDrinkYourBlood]

*toss's a book* GET OUTTA HERE YA PATHETIC BASTERD!!!!!

[ichi the killer]

Totally agree with what you're saying filmaker 2. But at that age i know i was the same. At 14 i saw original dotd, i also saw the shining. I remember thinking what a load of shit- wheres the gore? I saw the shining again 2-3 years later & loved the film & its now one of my favourite films, I was just ignorant at that age. What pisses me off more than dumb fuck mtv fed teenagers are these people who won't watch foreign films or even black & white films.
I got mates who won't watch subtitles, So i lend them Haute Tension which is dubbed, he says awesome film but the syncs out! I've given up trying to eduacte most of them i just leave them to their Tomb Raiders, Resident Evils, & AVP, while they label me the weirdo.

[FreddyC.Krueger]

Hey, I fucking hate all the Evil Dead movies and Gay-Ass-Ash but everyone else seems to like him.

We all have different tastes in movies.

[ichi the killer]

Originally posted by FreddyC.Krueger
Hey, I fucking hate all the Evil Dead movies and Gay-Ass-Ash but everyone else seems to like him.

We all have different tastes in movies.
I'm not talking about different tastes in movies, its the fear of trying something new and only conforming to what the rest of the sheep watch or what music they listen to.

[urgeok]

Originally posted by FreddyC.Krueger
Hey, I fucking hate all the Evil Dead movies and Gay-Ass-Ash but everyone else seems to like him.

We all have different tastes in movies.

thats the one thing i thought i'd never read here !

[TheOmen]

I'm convinced that saying old shit is garbage is just part of being young. We all went through it. I can remeber hating anything in B&W, without ever watching it. I hated the Rolling Stones because my parents liked them. That's just how it goes until you get to about 25 , then you take a much more cerebral view instead of trying to be different . You end up liking what you like, not what's cool at the time. And this generation is just trained to treat any movie that takes time to establish a story as boring. They'll get over it the more immersed in movies they become. Casual movie goers never will, but who gives a shit about them?

Anyway, DOTD is a classic. But the problem is it's not a straight up horror movie. Theres satirical moments all through it which many youngsters will never notice. And it is dated in terms of style, and you know kids...

[urgeok]

thank god i was always open to old music/movies when i was young. I never had that view that if my parents like it it must suck.

Although i can say today - what my parents like sucked (they just had shit taste)

But old movies .. I love them.
70's arent old to me but they are to the population here .. and they were the best horror .. grittier ..

As far as comedies go .. you cant beat the fast talking razor sharp dialogue of the 30's - 40's

hell, people havent forgotten how to make good films,
people stopped wanting them.

[idaemon68]

have you seen a movie called audition

[allmykids]

Originally posted by g star
i tried to watch the original dawn of the dead the other night and i was totally bored. i made it through maybe 45 minutes before i shut it off. i realize it's a classic and every true horror fan loves it so.... what's wrong with me? does it get better as it goes along? does it take repeated viewings to truely appreciate it? i love all horror movies, i really do, from the great to the absurd. but DOTD, which some consider the best of all time, i just couldn't get into. am i nuts? advice please.

jaded horror fan.

YES YOUR NUTS!! LOL!!

[feral cat]

Originally posted by idaemon68
have you seen a movie called audition Yes … a lot of people have, not sure what it has to do with the original Dawn of the dead though!!!

[IDrinkYourBlood]

maybe you have a short attention span, watch it some more times

[chaplain]

Originally posted by allmykids
YES YOUR NUTS!! LOL!!






She thouht you were crazy, but now she sees your nuts.

[urgeok]

i love that one :)




and ... i didnt say she was crazy, i said she was fucking goofy !! (mickey mouse)

[ichi the killer]

yup, another post deteriorating into sexual inuendos.

[chaplain]

Originally posted by ichi the killer
yup, another post deteriorating into sexual inuendos.


Wanna fuck?

[ichi the killer]

Originally posted by chaplain
Wanna fuck?
Don t think im your type.

[chaplain]

Originally posted by ichi the killer
Don t think im your type.




If you have an anus you are my type.

[filmmaker2]

I do think that anyone who grew up with "Famous Monsters of Filmland" was lucky, because at that time, it was considered COOL to like old monster movies (imagine that!). Around the time "Famous Monsters" faded out and was replaced by "Fangoria," it became "no longer cool" to be into that old stuff. Suddenly anything in black and white was undeserving of attention. The fake blood had to be red!

But yeah, it's hard to believe, looking back, that some kids would memorize the dialogue of the old Universal films...

"Famous Monsters" itself had a lot to do with shaping horror fan culture. It constantly reminded its readers that hey, we wouldn't have this new shit unless those wrinkled old guys had given us the old shit way back when. Today comes out of yesterday. I guess it was another way of saying "respect your elders," except with monsters.

[ichi the killer]

Originally posted by chaplain
If you have an anus you are my type.
Sorry don't think the wife would approve. She's the one who wears the strap on dildo in the bedroom.

[The_Return]

This thread shows me how over mature I must be. Sure, I enjoy the horror films of today, I really do. But you cant bewat the classics. Im 14, I saw DotD this year only a coupole weeks before Halloween. I loved it, and Im in no rush to rent the remake.

Omen said something like once you reach 25 or so, you stop liking whats cool, ans start liking what you like. Yay, Im 11 years more mature than I should be! :D

[TheOmen]

Omen said something like once you reach 25 or so, you stop liking whats cool, ans start liking what you like. Yay, Im 11 years more mature than I should be!

That's good. However I was majoritively speaking. Of course not all kids hate all things 'old'. I liked Black Sabbath, but hated the Stones when I was your age. So I did like things that were on this earth well before I was born. But when I got into my mid-twenties, I definitely gave more things a chance, especially movies.

[Angelakillsluts]

Originally posted by g star
i tried to watch the original dawn of the dead the other night and i was totally bored. i made it through maybe 45 minutes before i shut it off. i realize it's a classic and every true horror fan loves it so.... what's wrong with me? does it get better as it goes along? does it take repeated viewings to truely appreciate it? i love all horror movies, i really do, from the great to the absurd. but DOTD, which some consider the best of all time, i just couldn't get into. am i nuts? advice please.

jaded horror fan.

Everybody has different tastes. I know a lot of horror fans that love horror as much as I do, and they cannot stand the Evil Dead movies. It does pickup a bit at the middle, but it's probably just not your cup of tea.

[urgeok]

i think the younger folks have a hard time with subtle black and white slow building horror films.
Most of them want high octane guns blazing thrill a minute movies.

i prefer ones that have a nice slow build up .. allowing for character developement so that you actually get to know, like, and understand the characters which allows you to identify with them, thus feeling concern that they might actually die.
this is what builds terror and suspense ..

who gives a shit if some cardboard cutout character dies (i.e. anyone in resident evil 2)

making a great horror film is a rare art.
few take the bother to because it is too much of a risk.
The demogrphic for horror films is largely the youth population who are the ones that want everything hard and fast - so they dont get bored.
If they dont support good films (they rarely do) then they wont get made. Simple economics.

and i'm not saying all youth is like this ... just most of them.

[tachii]

Originally posted by urgeok
i've seen the name around on a UK enteratinment site ..
they seem to be generally hated .. along with some band called mcfly ?

hates the pistols eh ?
thats a good reason for a beating right there.

Although he shows some sense in his feelings toward Green Day - a band I always despised. (as being a Knack clone)

ahhh youth today .. what's to be done with them ?



they should be strung up and gutted
i blame it on the parents though
can't they properly teach their children the differance between a good and bad flick?
i actually take the time to make sure my neices and nepwes know the classics

[urgeok]

tachii, i thought you were a teenage girl too ? :)
you sure look young in the pic..

[tachii]

22
and most people tell me they thought i was older
that's a breath of fresh air!:D

[urgeok]

maybe you act older .. it changes perceptions of people..

but 22 ... man i cant even remember being 22.
thats half my life ago !

[tachii]

so the picture is all that made you think i was younger?

[urgeok]

yeah pretty much .. not the altered black and white one ..but the two partial face ones (including your avatar)
no lines, smooth skin .. looks young to me..

not like thats a bad thing ...

[tachii]

that's just a mask i wear
i forgot where i left my real face

[urgeok]

hey, its Dr Phibes faceless wife :)

[tachii]

come on like you didn't know she'd show up some day
come on

[urgeok]

true ....

or you could be the wife in Eyes Without a Face ...

i just got it on laserdisc .. havent seen it yet so i dont know just how appropriate that is yet.

[tachii]

moo?

[urgeok]

moo ???

[tachii]

you lost me guy=moo?

[urgeok]

you said : moo? two posts ago ..

I'm the one that's lost ! :)

[tachii]

didn't understand the eyes without a face thing

[urgeok]

oh .. sorry i see ..

its an old french horror film ..

about a guy who tries to get his wife a new face .. a disease or something trashed her regular one ..

[tachii]

:D

i honestly didn't think that was an actual tile. i just thought you were funning with me

[urgeok]

its more than just another Billy Idol song :)

[TheOmen]

about a guy who tries to get his wife a new face .. a disease or something trashed her regular one ..


Fits perfectly with todays society, doesn't it?

I'm getting the Criterion disc soon. It's a really good movie. Yet another that young folk will have a hard time sitting through.

[ichi the killer]

Originally posted by TheOmen
Fits perfectly with todays society, doesn't it?

I'm getting the Criterion disc soon. It's a really good movie. Yet another that young folk will have a hard time sitting through.
Bloody great film, that & the original Carnival of souls still stand up today. ( if they had some slo mo bullet time they would rule!)

[massacre man]

i didn't like it the first time but the second time was alot better and now it is one of my favorites