Ju-On: The Grudge

[deadandgone]

has anybody seen the grudge i just wanted to know if its worth a watch

[MrShape]

Seen all four of 'em. They're interesting. Each one tells five stories of how people meet their end at the hands of the curse. They're well made, but they don't really seem to go anywhere. I found myself enjoying them, but most people probably won't.

[deadandgone]

thanks man im gonna go watch them now

[TrueFan]

Ju-on (The Grudge) and Ju-on 2, which is not really a sequal, but rather a remake with a bigger budget. The rest, I hear get weaker. Pang brothers do great work when givien a bigger budget

[deadandgone]

thanks alot

[komi]

good horror movie
almost omnibus :D

[tachii]

been wanting to watch don't know if its worth it though still might give it a chance

[Vleeshaak]

Ju-On:the Grudge is a must see for those who like Asian Horror. It`s not all that original, but it`s creepy and scary.

[deadandgone]

sam raimi said it was the scariest movie hes ever seen thats gotta count for something

[Vodstok]

There was another one on this,but i dont care, it was too fucking long.....


Well, i saw the Grudge this weekend.....and it exemplifies why i stopped watching anime movies a long time ago...

In many cases, japanese writing in films is disjointed, nonlinear, and confusing. Details are left out, and no clues are given to fill them in, they are simply left to accept as truth.


Spolier, dont go further...



















A stalker who gets killed by her husband is hardly what i would have expected, and it was quite a letdown. And why did LoneStar kill himself? Granted, i would be a bit screwed up if some nutcase and her kid got killed by her husband because she was stalking me, but that us hardly a cause for suicide.

plenty of the mive tried really hard to be scary, but just didnt pull it off..... Very very much of the "scary" stuff was stolen directly from Ringu. (there was even a scene stolen from Demon Knight, which was the freakiest thing in the movie). And why did the ghost burp? Eeek! it has gas! I guess farting was just a little too funny, but loud, long belches are terrifying :rolleyes:

A coworker saw this before me and said it was pretty good and his wife was scared tyhrough the whole thing... Maybe i am too jaded by the other movies i have seen, and many i watch on a regular basis, but i thought the grudge sucked.

And what the hell is the point of the title? The Ring was a bit esoteric, but it made sense...who has a grudge? a grudge against what? if it was a grudge, it is awfully indiscrimiate. grudges are usually towards a particular person or group. And dont say "the living", because that would make it even morelame....

[tachii]

i fell asleep in the theatre, and that throat click thing was annoying, wasn't it? fucking movie made no sence!!! i wan't my 2.50 back goddammit!!!

it is rather hard to be properly scared in this day and age. i've been watching horror ever since i could see and maybe i've been desensitized, but hollywood really should try harder.

[Vodstok]

The new dawn of the dead had me sweating bullets. The ring scared the hell out of me. hell, i still get jumpy if i watch the exorcist alone. This movie was just a flop.

They need to let those of us that are desnsitized make what scares US, then we will absolutely terrify the regular folks.

[tachii]

Originally posted by Vodstok
The new dawn of the dead had me sweating bullets. The ring scared the hell out of me. hell, i still get jumpy if i watch the exorcist alone. This movie was just a flop.

They need to let those of us that are desnsitized make what scares US, then we will absolutely terrify the regular folks.


shit, yeah!!!

[MichaelMyers]

A friend was just telling me that a girl at his workplace saw this movie and keeps having nightmares, and can't even be alone outside in case something "gets" her. Man, people are so soft nowadays. :D

[tachii]

no shit

[urgeok]

a review i heard aknowledged the dreamy non linear feel of the film but he said that was very much a part of Japanese horror cinema and he praised it anyway.

I'm going to have to watch the origional.

[tachii]

that thought never occurred to me
perhaps i shall follow suit

[urgeok]

Originally posted by tachii
that thought never occurred to me
perhaps i shall follow suit

the stupid thing is that i've had it for about 6 months now ...
I never get a chance to catch up !

[tachii]

don't feel bad i have a huge list that i'm still trying to put a dent in

[urgeok]

Originally posted by tachii
don't feel bad i have a huge list that i'm still trying to put a dent in

try 2000 - 3000 movies i own and havent seen yet ...

[Vodstok]

Originally posted by urgeok
a review i heard aknowledged the dreamy non linear feel of the film but he said that was very much a part of Japanese horror cinema and he praised it anyway.


Interesting concept... nonlinear worked well in pulp-fiction. it also worked well in The Highlander. (well, semi nonlinea).

In the grudges case... i believe that is what we writers call "poor writing"

"What the hell, transition whenever you feel like it and dont tie it together well. People will get it anyway. And if they dont, they just arent very sophisticated...."

[urgeok]

Originally posted by Vodstok
Interesting concept... nonlinear worked well in pulp-fiction. it also worked well in The Highlander. (well, semi nonlinea).

In the grudges case... i believe that is what we writers call "poor writing"

"What the hell, transition whenever you feel like it and dont tie it together well. People will get it anyway. And if they dont, they just arent very sophisticated...."

the japanese in many cases also are like a lot of italian horror which is heavy into style over substance.
Sometimes I can deal with it.. others ... sure it can be tedious.
At least i guess i can see why others wouldnt like it.

[Vodstok]

That would explain a lot.. I cant stand style over substance (okay, so i liked independance day, sue me). I always believed that people who use this technique should leave the writing to someone else.

[urgeok]

i can be tolerant sometimes.
I find that the Hong Kong filmmakers are the worst.
I mean John Woo is a fun director but people like his early films because they are funny, old fashioned, and dont translate well to english, not because they are brilliant .. technically or otherwise.
everything is slo-mo ...ultra cliche ...
It just doesnt work as well for them ..

I think the italians get away with it because of the huge emphasis they put in the music and camerawork ..
The Japanese horror films are still somewhat musically challanged .. they rely on that cheap keyboard sound to much .. like a Richard Band production ..


anyway i still need to see the damn thing to make up my own mind. if i ever get a chance..

[Vodstok]

On the note of italian films, suspiria was a huge letdown. it was exactly what i expected of an italian horror flick, wich isnt a good thing in my book.

[newb]

Originally posted by Vodstok
On the note of italian films, suspiria was a huge letdown. it was exactly what i expected of an italian horror flick, wich isnt a good thing in my book.

Don't let zwoti see this :eek:

[urgeok]

well, i know what he means .. they are an aquired taste. I'm fully aware of their shortcomings but i love them never the less..

[Vodstok]

Ilove Mcdonald's double cheeseburgers, and consider a dinner at taco bell "special".... So to each his own.

[zwoti]

Originally posted by Vodstok
On the note of italian films, suspiria was a huge letdown. it was exactly what i expected of an italian horror flick, wich isnt a good thing in my book.

Originally posted by newb
Don't let zwoti see this :eek:

[tachii]

Originally posted by urgeok
try 2000 - 3000 movies i own and havent seen yet ...




how does that happen
i only have about 7 which are still waiting around for viewing
of course i don't open them up until ready to watch
is your case the same?

[urgeok]

Originally posted by tachii
how does that happen
i only have about 7 which are still waiting around for viewing
of course i don't open them up until ready to watch
is your case the same?

I have had some good contacts for getting free movies in the days of VHS ..
since then I've been buying way yoo many than i have time to see.
I have a 4 year old and most of the movies that get play at our house are kiddie films ..

I figure I'll reture some day.

if you want to see what 8000 movies look like, check my gallery .. the tape shelves are 3 deep ..

[tachii]

Originally posted by urgeok
I have had some good contacts for getting free movies in the days of VHS ..
since then I've been buying way yoo many than i have time to see.
I have a 4 year old and most of the movies that get play at our house are kiddie films ..

I figure I'll reture some day.

if you want to see what 8000 movies look like, check my gallery .. the tape shelves are 3 deep ..


already ahead of you, checked it out during the el topo discussion, any luck?

any way probably gonna drop by the video store today, not sure, depends on my mood.

[Vodstok]

Holy shit urge.... I will be using those pics to let my wife know that I am a friggin'angel compared to someone.....

[tachii]

yup, my collection is still a baby
340 and growing
(pouts and turns head)

[urgeok]

Originally posted by tachii
already ahead of you, checked it out during the el topo discussion, any luck?

any way probably gonna drop by the video store today, not sure, depends on my mood.

I've seen a few on Ebay - i think I'll keep checking for a Canadian seller though because every other DVD i order from the USA never makes it .. It drives me nuts !

[urgeok]

Originally posted by Vodstok
Holy shit urge.... I will be using those pics to let my wife know that I am a friggin'angel compared to someone.....


i'm dead serious when i say I've had at least 8 guys say that they're bringing their wives over to see the basement to make themselves look good ..

[Amalthea]

I ain´t looking forward to the remake.

[ShankS]

you guys should have really watched the original Grudge 1 & 2 first, then you'd probably have had a more enjoyable view.

ok yeah I agree Jap films are kind of strange to start with, but then thats why these films have such a unique following....you either love em or hate em, and if you love em you'll appreciate the style much more.

I liked, and this is probably the first and last time I'll ever say this, the transition from the original Grudge to this remake, and has been done superbly imo....the story was followed well and I think they chose good american 'jap' replacements for the main characters.

The Grudge remake was far better than the Ring remake...even though I should have followed my own advice, since I watched the Ring remake before watching all of the Ring originals.

[Vodstok]

Ugh, i at least liked the Ring. I didnt care for Ringu either, and one of my complaints about the grudge was that it reminded me too much of ringu. Sorry, the scariest thing to me about the grudge was theat the theater i saw it in was smaller than my living room..

[jay o2 waster]

I think that I finally might go and see this tonight

[tachii]

Originally posted by Vodstok
Ugh, i at least liked the Ring. I didnt care for Ringu either, and one of my complaints about the grudge was that it reminded me too much of ringu. Sorry, the scariest thing to me about the grudge was theat the theater i saw it in was smaller than my living room..


what did they have in common?
i was too bored to pay attention:confused:

[MrShape]

I liked The Grudge. So fuck you guys.

[Vodstok]

To each his own....

arent you going to kiss us first? :D


Tachii, here is the similarity:

Evil beast is a scraggly haired dead chick in shabby clothing. both have a "scary" scene where they show off a single eye through matted hair. Oh yeah, and its "a curse that will get you anywhere, no matter what" :rolleyes:

[urgeok]

i'd still go see it ... tastes vary and i might find something i like that hits my buttons.

i sat through res evil 2, i sat through the village, i bought used and watched both cold creek manor and the godsend ...

how bad could it be ?

[Vodstok]

Bad.....

[Montage_Man]

I just want to know if its as bad as the terrible remake. And whether or not to watch it.

[ichi the killer]

I thought original Grudge 1 & 2 were excellent, hav nt seen remake so can t compare. All matter of taste i hated the remake of Ringu.

[ShankS]

Originally posted by Montage_Man
I just want to know if its as bad as the terrible remake. And whether or not to watch it.


what do you mean as bad??? they were here first... they're much better, it's the damn Yanks :D influencing Takashi Shimizu into making a Yankyfied version.

[ichi the killer]

Could nt agree more.

[Montage_Man]

Genrally Remakes come after Original :D

[Lirael]

Originally posted by Montage_Man
Genrally Remakes come after Original :D *note to self Remakes come after the original* That is good to know.

[The STE]

which "original?" There's the one that was theatrically released in Japan, it has a commercial DVD release here (US) now. But there was also the TV-movie that was in Japan. You can get it on Ebay if you're in the states, I don't know how wide a release it got on DVD outside Japan. From what I hear, the TV-movie is far better

[jay o2 waster]

not that great imo

[HorrorJunkie17]

I've seen the original Grudge (which is titled Ju-On.) and I have to say that the remake is far better as far as "jump" scences and gore, while the original, in a way, explains the plot of the story a whole lot better. All in all though I liked the remake better.

[horror_master]

I have seen the japense version and the american version. The Isay thier both kinda similar in freakyness

[Shade]

They're both about the same, both good. The American one is really the same...save for a large buget...and Americans of course >.>;;.

[urgeok]

i saw the origional Grundge.

I think it was pre-Nirvana. But definately from Seattle.

Or maybe Minniapolos.. home to not only Prince, but also Soul Asylum. They were pretty Grundgy. (before Pirner started seeing Winona Ryder and the band went 'pussy'


ahhh how i miss the origional Grundge days.

[newb]

I still put on Grave Dancers Union every once in a while.

The original Godfather of Grunge...Neil Young.

[urgeok]

Originally posted by newb
I still put on Grave Dancers Union every once in a while.

The original Godfather of Grunge...Neil Young.

in a fashion sense .. most definately.

if you want to check out Soul Asylum when they were good, get Clam Dip and Other Favorites (the one with the mock up 'herb alperta and the Tijuana bras : whipped cream and other delights' cover)

or Hang Time

[newb]

Originally posted by urgeok
in a fashion sense .. most definately.

if you want to check out Soul Asylum when they were good, get Clam Dip and Other Favorites (the one with the mock up 'herb alperta and the Tijuana bras : whipped cream and other delights' cover)

or Hang Time

Now I know your almost as old as me......just the mere mention of Herb Albert & the Tijuana Brass....my father had that album.......I believe there was a little cleavage.....I probabaly took it into the bathroom with me.

[urgeok]

Originally posted by newb
Now I know your almost as old as me......just the mere mention of Herb Albert & the Tijuana Brass....my father had that album.......I believe there was a little cleavage.....I probabaly took it into the bathroom with me.
so you added your own 'cream whip and other delights' and made it into a 3d cover ?

[nine9]

I saw both, the American version first. I thought the American one was good...but the original was great! I liked the way it was put together better, and I thought it explained more.

[urgeok]

Originally posted by nine9
I saw both, the American version first. I thought the American one was good...but the original was great! I liked the way it was put together better, and I thought it explained more.

take all this time to fuck the thread up and with one fell swoop we're back on track again.


shit !

[Vodstok]

uh oh..... Nine and urge.. its a canadian clash!

why dont you two have some gravy fries and a molson and talk it over.

Urge, its okay that you want to usurp threads and make them your own. We know you have issues.

Nine, please, when someone derails a topic, please dont bring it back to the original subject. it gets them fired up


:D


I know. Im an ass :D

[nine9]

Originally posted by urgeok
take all this time to fuck the thread up and with one fell swoop we're back on track again.


shit !

lol......sorry urge.......continue derailing....:p

[urgeok]

Originally posted by Vodstok
uh oh..... Nine and urge.. its a canadian clash!

why dont you two have some gravy fries and a molson and talk it over.

Urge, its okay that you want to usurp threads and make them your own. We know you have issues.

Nine, please, when someone derails a topic, please dont bring it back to the original subject. it gets them fired up


:D


I know. Im an ass :D

molson ? fries with gravy ?
that must be some other canadians !
I drink guinness or corona (talk about extremes) and i dont put gravy on anything !

and i hate to think i was 'usurping' threads .. i just sometimes like to nudge them a bit :)

[urgeok]

Originally posted by nine9
lol......sorry urge.......continue derailing....:p


didnt know you were a fellow Canuck ... where from ?

[nine9]

Originally posted by urgeok
didnt know you were a fellow Canuck ... where from ?

Yup....Winnipeg Manitoba. :D

[urgeok]

Originally posted by nine9
Yup....Winnipeg Manitoba. :D

winterpeg ! holy smokes !!
that explains the norweigic blonde good looks..

to you americans out there .. Winnipeg is like Canada's Tibet.

they get 3 warm days a year but still cant go outside because the black flies will strip them of their flesh in a new york minute.


poor sweet girl ....

[Vodstok]

Hey, its just like tibet! COld and has buddhists :D

[nine9]

Originally posted by urgeok
winterpeg ! holy smokes !!
that explains the norweigic blonde good looks..

to you americans out there .. Winnipeg is like Canada's Tibet.

they get 3 warm days a year but still cant go outside because the black flies will strip them of their flesh in a new york minute.


poor sweet girl ....

LOLOL.......:D We do get the best summers though.........however short. And I am Icelandic and German...... that is why I am fair, nothing to do with the weather. :p

[BH14]

I watched this movie last night and I wasnt expecting much. However, I was surprised by it. The movie builds a lot of suspense and the plot works very well. I heard people compare this movie to the Grudge and kill Ju-On because the special effects cant compare. But I think the spooky lil boy who looked like he had played with a bottle of baby powder was still frightening compared to any of today's special effects. As well as the lady crawling down the stairs. And by the way, the sound effects in this movie is phenomenal and uses it very well. I highly recommend it and I already put The Grudge (American version) and Ju-On 2 on my rental list. Im hearing bad thing about Ju-On 2 because its like a summarization of part 1. What Ju-On movies should I definetly see? I know of 5 of em so far. probably more.

[Vodstok]

I havent seen any of the japanese originals, but the Grudge was a huge disappointment.

[Angra]

Originally posted by BH14
I watched this movie last night and I wasnt expecting much. However, I was surprised by it. The movie builds a lot of suspense and the plot works very well. I heard people compare this movie to the Grudge and kill Ju-On because the special effects cant compare. But I think the spooky lil boy who looked like he had played with a bottle of baby powder was still frightening compared to any of today's special effects. As well as the lady crawling down the stairs. And by the way, the sound effects in this movie is phenomenal and uses it very well. I highly recommend it and I already put The Grudge (American version) and Ju-On 2 on my rental list. Im hearing bad thing about Ju-On 2 because its like a summarization of part 1. What Ju-On movies should I definetly see? I know of 5 of em so far. probably more.

No, only 5 so far until Shimizu makes his second american Grudge movie. But if you have seen Ju-on, I will recomend Ju-on the grudge & especially Ju-on the grudge 2. It´s the most entertaining and with the biggest budget. I havn´t seen The american The Grudge, so i can´t recomend it yet.

[BH14]

i rented ju-on from library... it says Ju-On on the cover. i went on different message board and found out that the movie i saw is probably the Ju-On Grudge. It begins with social worker entering the house and finding the old lady in the messed up house. nevertheless, it was good.

[urgeok]

dug up this dusty old thread because i finally saw The Grudge and I'm still marvelling over how good i thought it was.

I didnt find it in the least bit confusing at all ... it just kept going back in time to explain 'what happened to the last guy'

my wife was hanging from the ceiling half the movie - completely scared the shit out of her ... and i have to admit, after seeing Ju-on, it wasnt like i didnt know what was coming - but i jumped about 3 times just the same ..

I never jump at movies.

To me - i would have assumed that this movie would be every horror lovers dream ... tons of scares and the creepiest atmosphere in any movie in a long time...

I was impressed !

[BH14]

I saw Ju-On before this movie so I kinda knew what to expect. Nevertheless, i still found it spooky in situations and would even give it a nod over Ju-On. I have Ju-On in my collection and would probably add this movie to it later on.. Thumbs up!

[Vodstok]

Originally posted by urgeok
dug up this dusty old thread because i finally saw The Grudge and I'm still marvelling over how good i thought it was.

I didnt find it in the least bit confusing at all ... it just kept going back in time to explain 'what happened to the last guy'

my wife was hanging from the ceiling half the movie - completely scared the shit out of her ... and i have to admit, after seeing Ju-on, it wasnt like i didnt know what was coming - but i jumped about 3 times just the same ..

I never jump at movies.

To me - i would have assumed that this movie would be every horror lovers dream ... tons of scares and the creepiest atmosphere in any movie in a long time...

I was impressed ! Why am i hoping you were being completely sarcastic?

[urgeok]

Originally posted by Vodstok
Why am i hoping you were being completely sarcastic?


not a chance ! I cant believe you didnt like it !

when i think of all the other bullshit out there that passes for horror .... this was definately a bright spot for me.
I had it for ages - couldnt get excited to see it because of the bad press it was getting in here ... i was really suprised at the quality of the film.


i'd rather see an unknown in place of SMG's character but it wasnt that distracting.

[hellfire1]

the grugde... ugh...

i watched alien last night and was 10 times more creeped out than with this... but yeah, to each his/her own.

[knee jerk]

Sorry to Grudge lovers but it just wasn't all that great.

There were some scary moments but often times its just like: "Hey, there's a girl wandering around with no jaw---isn't that crazy? That's sooo weird, isn't it? C'mon...its crazy I tell you! CRAZY!!!"

And yeah, this movie just had too much in common with the Ring, which absolutely scared the living hell outta me.

I guess in a year that didn't have much in the way of good horror....no....its still not a good movie.
But I still haven't seen "Saw" sooo.....

[SlayerShel]

I watched the Grudge tonight!

[urgeok]

Originally posted by knee jerk
Sorry to Grudge lovers but it just wasn't all that great.

There were some scary moments but often times its just like: "Hey, there's a girl wandering around with no jaw---isn't that crazy? That's sooo weird, isn't it? C'mon...its crazy I tell you! CRAZY!!!"

And yeah, this movie just had too much in common with the Ring, which absolutely scared the living hell outta me.

I guess in a year that didn't have much in the way of good horror....no....its still not a good movie.
But I still haven't seen "Saw" sooo.....

i'm not going to argue your opinion, but i'm dying to know what you considered to be better in the last 5 years ?

[knee jerk]

I dunno, I'm old, shit like "Jaws" scared me. And "Deliverance." And "The Day After."

"The Ring" was pretty goddamn scary. Even though the story is ridiculous. I mean,c'mon .....a videotape???....no one even watches VHS anymore. Ha ha ha.....but really, that's just the first problem I have with that dumb movie. But for some reason, it scared the hell outta me.
Ummm....that one sci-fi movie...."Event Horizon." I thought that was pretty fucked up too. I dunno why. Probably what was the most horrible was that kid who was about to shoot himself into space and then he woke up from his trance a few seconds before the hatch opened. I felt his panic and it freaked me out bigtime!

So there were some scary moments in "The Grudge" but it all tension induced by the sounds and atmosphere. Which is all well and good but....it just wasn't it, ya' know?

[urgeok]

Originally posted by knee jerk
I dunno, I'm old, shit like "Jaws" scared me. And "Deliverance." And "The Day After."

"The Ring" was pretty goddamn scary. Even though the story is ridiculous. I mean,c'mon .....a videotape???....no one even watches VHS anymore. Ha ha ha.....but really, that's just the first problem I have with that dumb movie. But for some reason, it scared the hell outta me.
Ummm....that one sci-fi movie...."Event Horizon." I thought that was pretty fucked up too. I dunno why. Probably what was the most horrible was that kid who was about to shoot himself into space and then he woke up from his trance a few seconds before the hatch opened. I felt his panic and it freaked me out bigtime!

So there were some scary moments in "The Grudge" but it all tension induced by the sounds and atmosphere. Which is all well and good but....it just wasn't it, ya' know?

old ... i'm 43 .. i saw jaws at the theatre when it was first released .
I still have a hard time considering it a horror movie .. and certainly not Deliverance .. good movie but i didnt find it scary.
(and to be honest - i'm already on record on an older thread here saying how much i hated event horizon :)

atmosphere is 98% of a great horror movie ..
and i thought The Grudge was oozing with it .. a lot of nice effective little touches ... but thats whay i liked .. we dont all look for the same thing in films ..



but ... you still didnt answer my question re. whats been better in the last 5 years ..

[knee jerk]

I thought I did, sorry.
I'm not sure if there's really been any horror movies that've scared me with the exception of the Ring.

I've thoroughly enjoyed several others including Shaun of the Dead, 28 Days Later, The Devil's Backbone, the new Dawn of the Dead, Underworld and Resident Evil.
But nothing that's been, like, REALLY scary (again with the glaring exception of the Ring).
The last movie before that that I thought was freaky was "Event Horizon" and I know you hate it but damn...there was something about that movie that really screwed with me.

Again, taste being relative and all that.....
And I didn't HATE the Grudge but it didn't do it for me. Now I DID however absolutely hate Res. Evil 2, House of the Dead & House of 1000 Corpses.....
But I gotta say, even though I thought "1000 Corpses" was terrible that movie kinda fucked with me as well. Had these horrible nightmares after that one.

[urgeok]

Originally posted by knee jerk
I thought I did, sorry.
I'm not sure if there's really been any horror movies that've scared me with the exception of the Ring.

I've thoroughly enjoyed several others including Shaun of the Dead, 28 Days Later, The Devil's Backbone, the new Dawn of the Dead, Underworld and Resident Evil.
But nothing that's been, like, REALLY scary (again with the glaring exception of the Ring).
The last movie before that that I thought was freaky was "Event Horizon" and I know you hate it but damn...there was something about that movie that really screwed with me.

Again, taste being relative and all that.....
And I didn't HATE the Grudge but it didn't do it for me. Now I DID however absolutely hate Res. Evil 2, House of the Dead & House of 1000 Corpses.....
But I gotta say, even though I thought "1000 Corpses" was terrible that movie kinda fucked with me as well. Had these horrible nightmares after that one.

i thought house of 1000 corpses was the first thing to give the (origional) Texas chainsaw massacre vibe since the origional ..
i thought it was fast paced lunacy ...relentless ... pretty cool.

[Angra]

Originally posted by urgeok
i thought house of 1000 corpses was the first thing to give the (origional) Texas chainsaw massacre vibe since the origional ..
i thought it was fast paced lunacy ...relentless ... pretty cool.


I thought it lacked a whole lot of humor. Then i might have liked it...:(

[knee jerk]

I thought it had plenty of humor which made the cold blooded murders all the more creepy.
It just wasn't a very well-thought out story.
I mean.....c'mon the "Fish-boy?" And "Doctor Satan???" I knew idiot stoners from high school who made up better stories than that and I'm from MISSOURI!
R. Zombie coulda really come up with something better.

But I gotta say, if the point was to make you feel queasy long after the movie ended then it did its job.

[Moezilla]

I have to also say I didn't find the Grudge at all scary or even atmospheric. Ju-On had a much better atmosphere (weird seeing it's the same director) that it American counterpart which to me at times seemed more rushed. There was no tension building, no creepiness and not one scare the entire movie.

Ju-On wasn't scary either, it was pretty creepy but not scary. As has been said already, there's not much in the way of truly scary horror movies anymore. 28 Days Later was good, had some major holes in it but was a different take on a zombie flick. Dog Soldiers rocked, wasn't scary but was creepy and eerie much more than I felt in the grudge.

Of course, the greatest horror movie of all time is The Blair Witch Project! ;)

[immortalem]

i did like the Grudge. I thought it was poor writning and that the story did not flow very well. It wasn't even scary, it felt like it dragged on forever.

[knee jerk]

I'm not sure what it was that you liked about it then?

[kain]

Ju-On was by far the better film, the Grudge was too simplified introduced a back story that was not needed.

Asian horror really is an acquired taste but is well worth checking out

[urgeok]

i thought it was so good i cant imagine what is considered to be better in the last few years ...

[BH14]

I liked Ju-On because it didnt tell you too much. However, The Grudge did have a little bit more scary parts and went to explain the story more. Both movies are very good. Not many movies use sound effects as good as these movies. I think "The Ring" has a much more interesting story than both of em.

[bloodrayne]

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[annoyingbitch]

has anyone seen this before:)

[annoyingbitch]

I guess thats a yes:) 2 me I hated liked the pg13 viersion better

[Angelakillsluts]

Ju-On 2 any good?

[Hrze The Goat]

Originally posted by urgeok
i thought it was so good i cant imagine what is considered to be better in the last few years ...

I MUST agree.
That non stop,yet slow action gave me necessary chilliness

[urgeok]

Originally posted by immortalem
i did like the Grudge. I thought it was poor writning


i love mistakes like that :p

[XtRaVa]

Haha, yeah they are the best. I still love the one where the guy wanted to write reviews, but spelled write incorrectly :D

[Lala_Sound]

I've actually only seen Ju-On 1 and 2 and The first american Grudge
I loved them to bits they're my sort of film a little bit gory but not ones that leave you looking like this :eek: and very jumpy and eerie
If thats the kind of film you like then this one is for you :]

[XtRaVa]

Tis good.