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Wicked Lady

11-09-2004, 06:10 PM

I think your spelling sucks...can't we talk about things in a more adult way? *ahem* I think that you guys going on a rant to say how much you *hate*(oooooh*shivers*:rolleyes: ) a band that quite a few people love is just a little immature, I mean a thread about bands you don't like is alright, everyone does that but to go out of your way to pick on one band is just lame, like the threads about Evanescence:rolleyes:

and for anyone who cares.....GC has never (well maybe Benji has hinted at it before) actualy SAID they were a "Hard core punk band"(it's usualy fans that say that crap) they have admitted they are more like Pop rock....they dress the way they want to, and their new album is pretty dark, I love it...esp. this song called "the Truth" it sounds very deep, it's something you would expect from an old classic singer...it's beautiful...also "Ghost Of You" the lyrics are awesome...*looks for lyrics*

"Ghost Of You"

I will wait until the end
When the pendulum will swing back
to the darker side of our hearts bleeding
I will save this empty space
next to me like its a grave
where I lay a place for us to sleep eternally together

I have been
Searching for
Traces of
What we were
A ghost of you
is all that I have left
is all that I have left of you to hold
I wake in the night to find there's no one there but me
and nothing left of what we were at all

So here I am pacing around this house again
With pictures of us living on these walls
I see my breath in the cold of the air that I breathe and I'm

wondering I'm wondering if its you that i feel if its you that i feel

haunting me forever

I have been
Searching for
Traces of
What we were
A ghost of you
is all that I have left
is all that I have left of you to hold
I wake in the night to find there's no one there but me
and nothing left of what we were at all

and I'm not looking for
anything but us
anything but what we were
and I'm not asking for
painted memories
I only want to know you're here

A ghost of you
is all that I have left
is all that I have left of you to hold
I wake in the night to find theres no one there but me
and nothing left of what we were at all
A ghost of you
is all that I have left
is all that I have left of you to hold
I wake in the night to find theres no one there but me
and nothing left of what we were at all.

wow, i made it all the way through a post without using "Ohmigawd" or the letter Z...that must be for the record books considering the fact that I'm a GC fan :rolleyes:

massacre man

11-09-2004, 06:51 PM

Snoop Dogg in the house tonight lookin for some GROOPIE LUV

MichaelMyers

11-09-2004, 08:39 PM

The hell?

Arioch

11-10-2004, 09:23 AM

think your spelling sucks...can't we talk about things in a more adult way? *ahem* I think that you guys going on a rant to say how much you *hate*(oooooh*shivers* ) a band that quite a few people love is just a little immature, I mean a thread about bands you don't like is alright, everyone does that but to go out of your way to pick on one band is just lame, like the threads about Evanescence

and for anyone who cares.....GC has never (well maybe Benji has hinted at it before) actualy SAID they were a "Hard core punk band"(it's usualy fans that say that crap) they have admitted they are more like Pop rock....they dress the way they want to, and their new album is pretty dark, I love it...esp. this song called "the Truth" it sounds very deep, it's something you would expect from an old classic singer...it's beautiful...also "Ghost Of You" the lyrics are awesome...*looks for lyrics*

Good Charlotte is pop music, disguised as rock or punk or what have you....its made to sell, and that is all....in large numbers...and it does....its purposely as catchy as possible with those lovely nasal lyrics we all love curtesy of Blink 182 and all our favorite emo pop....

The attitude, music, and purpose of good charlotte, sum 41, blink 182, afi, etc. etc. is so far from real rock and roll it's sickening.....its made by corporate giants that sit in ivory towers, strait down the pipeline to all the pop driven youth, and the MTV crowd....

Wicked lady's post is the proof...if she thinks these guys are dressing that way because "they want to" and not because of a marketing executive in charge of good charlottes image and promotion, she just doesn't know how the industry works...

Believe me, when your in the business of selling MILLIONS of records, the record company that OWNS you, will leave nothing to chance.....EVERYTHING is calculated out, to sell more records.....to not see that is niave...

Sedated_replica

11-10-2004, 04:57 PM

Originally posted by chaplain
You finaly said something I agree with.

Don't agree with me, your stupid. You can't even spell "finally".

massacre man

11-10-2004, 05:24 PM

Originally posted by Sedated_replica
Don't agree with me, your stupid. You can't even spell "finally". soo wut if wea cant spel

Wicked Lady

11-10-2004, 07:30 PM

Originally posted by Arioch
Good Charlotte is pop music, disguised as rock or punk or what have you....its made to sell, and that is all....in large numbers...and it does....its purposely as catchy as possible with those lovely nasal lyrics we all love curtesy of Blink 182 and all our favorite emo pop....

The attitude, music, and purpose of good charlotte, sum 41, blink 182, afi, etc. etc. is so far from real rock and roll it's sickening.....its made by corporate giants that sit in ivory towers, strait down the pipeline to all the pop driven youth, and the MTV crowd....

Wicked lady's post is the proof...if she thinks these guys are dressing that way because "they want to" and not because of a marketing executive in charge of good charlottes image and promotion, she just doesn't know how the industry works...

Believe me, when your in the business of selling MILLIONS of records, the record company that OWNS you, will leave nothing to chance.....EVERYTHING is calculated out, to sell more records.....to not see that is niave... :rolleyes:

The_Return

11-10-2004, 07:49 PM

Im inpartial....I used to love them, but sorta drifted away.

Now Blink....I like them. Ill admit it any day. I dont care if they're run by corperate giants, they have some good music, thats all that matters. Thats my view on all music, who gives a fuck about image? You cant "see" music

Wicked Lady

11-10-2004, 08:04 PM

Originally posted by The_Return
Im inpartial....I used to love them, but sorta drifted away.

Now Blink....I like them. Ill admit it any day. I dont care if they're run by corperate giants, they have some good music, thats all that matters. Thats my view on all music, who gives a fuck about image? You cant "see" music very good point

BTW, I too drifted away for a while but their new CD is pretty good! you should check it out!....

you know....SOME people forget that nomatter what, we're all human...not all things have to lead up to a giant pollution generating corporation, people still have pride and free will, and even though I can't say for myself the truth about GC or Blink I still think it probobly hurts to work so hard and dream so long just to get bashed left and right...yes there are people who deserve it but there are also people who don't...SOME people start thinking that a band is selling out just because their single hit the radio...no...that means that you made it..you have accomplished that much, it's a thing of honor..(at least that's my opinion) and if the day ever comes for someone I know..to where they feel accomplished and they feel like they've actually made it, I hope that all that gets slung back into their face..and nothing they say can be proven...it might just be another use of the puppet created by the media:cool:

chaplain

11-11-2004, 04:36 AM

Originally posted by Sedated_replica
Don't agree with me, your stupid. You can't even spell "finally".

You are a raging penis head.

Sedated_replica

11-11-2004, 04:36 PM

Originally posted by chaplain
You are a raging penis head.

"Finally" a good one, ha ha

chaplain

11-11-2004, 05:29 PM

Originally posted by Sedated_replica
"Finally" a good one, ha ha

No I will not make out with you. Did ya hear that? this girl wants to make out with me in the middle of class. You got Chlorophyll Man up there talking about God knows what and all she can talk about is making out with me. I'm here to learn, everybody, not to make out with you. Go on with the chlorophyll.

Hate_Breeder

11-11-2004, 06:04 PM

Originally posted by chaplain
No I will not make out with you. Did ya hear that? this girl wants to make out with me in the middle of class. You got Chlorophyll Man up there talking about God knows what and all she can talk about is making out with me. I'm here to learn, everybody, not to make out with you. Go on with the chlorophyll.

hahahah god damn i love that movie :p

massacre man

11-12-2004, 01:14 PM

Originally posted by Hate_Breeder
hahahah god damn i love that movie :p 2nd best movie ever next to Clerks.

Arioch

11-15-2004, 01:33 PM

you know....SOME people forget that nomatter what, we're all human...not all things have to lead up to a giant pollution generating corporation, people still have pride and free will, and even though I can't say for myself the truth about GC or Blink I still think it probobly hurts to work so hard and dream so long just to get bashed left and right...yes there are people who deserve it but there are also people who don't...SOME people start thinking that a band is selling out just because their single hit the radio...no...that means that you made it..you have accomplished that much, it's a thing of honor..(at least that's my opinion) and if the day ever comes for someone I know..to where they feel accomplished and they feel like they've actually made it, I hope that all that gets slung back into their face..and nothing they say can be proven...it might just be another use of the puppet created by the media

The difference is REAL musicians dont need a huge signing and shirts with their names on it to feel accomplished....those are business men...and YOU are the market...

Forgive me i forgot the only music that exist is the "successful" musicians with multimillion dollar deals.....:rolleyes:

Continue to gobble the products your fed....you are nothing but a number...

chaplain

11-15-2004, 01:45 PM

Originally posted by Arioch
The difference is REAL musicians dont need a huge signing and shirts with their names on it to feel accomplished....those are business men...and YOU are the market...

Forgive me i forgot the only music that exist is the "successful" musicians with multimillion dollar deals.....:rolleyes:

Continue to gobble the products your fed....you are nothing but a number...

Some of my favorite bands are local bands that will never go anywhere(or have already disbanded:( ).

As far as "successful", my favorite band Reverend Horton Heat has never even had a gold album(due to lack of marketing by a major label) but sell-out most of thier shows and have a big cult following.I like a band like this that works for its success instead of relying on MTV to hand it to them.I feel they have more passion for the music.

Arioch

11-15-2004, 02:08 PM

Some of my favorite bands are local bands that will never go anywhere(or have already disbanded ).

As far as "successful", my favorite band Reverend Horton Heat has never even had a gold album(due to lack of marketing by a major label) but sell-out most of thier shows and have a big cult following.I like a band like this that works for its success instead of relying on MTV to hand it to them.I feel they have more passion for the music.

OMG!!! Do you see this Wicked Lady? Someone who can *gasp* think for themselves......:eek: OMG! SOME musician who is succesfull who is NOT on MTV!?!?! SURELY NOT!?!?!:eek:

But Chaplain, how can we buy their Shirts and Clothing lines at HOt Topic if they arent on MTV? I think your mistaken...

bloodrayne

11-15-2004, 02:14 PM

Originally posted by Arioch
OMG!!! Do you see this Wicked Lady? Someone who can *gasp* think for themselves......:eek: OMG! SOME musician who is succesfull who is NOT on MTV!?!?! SURELY NOT!?!?!:eek:

But Chaplain, how can we buy their Shirts and Clothing lines at HOt Topic if they arent on MTV? I think your mistaken... She said to tell you that she likes what she likes no matter what the bullshit behind it is...Only, she didn't say "bullshit", I did...

BTW...They sell Nine Inch Nails shirts at Hot Topic, too...Just in case YOU need another one ;)

chaplain

11-15-2004, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by Arioch
OMG!!! Do you see this Wicked Lady? Someone who can *gasp* think for themselves......:eek: OMG! SOME musician who is succesfull who is NOT on MTV!?!?! SURELY NOT!?!?!:eek:

But Chaplain, how can we buy their Shirts and Clothing lines at HOt Topic if they arent on MTV? I think your mistaken...

LOL-Not to take sides in this debate, but I did actually ask Hot Topics about ordering some RHH t-shirts.They told me they had tried in the past(when RHH almost broke the "big time", thank god they didn't) and they couldn't sell them, therefore they could not order any in!I almost shit myself laughing when they told me this.If its not cool, Hot Topics just can't get it!

chaplain

11-15-2004, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by bloodrayne
She said to tell you that she likes what she likes no matter what the bullshit behind it is...Only, she didn't say "bullshit", I did...

BTW...They sell Nine Inch Nails shirts at Hot Topic, too...Just in case YOU need another one ;)

I have to point out there was a time in the 90's when you couldn't turn on MTV without seeing one of Trents videos.

Wicked Lady

11-15-2004, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by Arioch
OMG!!! Do you see this Wicked Lady? Someone who can *gasp* think for themselves......:eek: OMG! SOME musician who is succesfull who is NOT on MTV!?!?! SURELY NOT!?!?!:eek:

But Chaplain, how can we buy their Shirts and Clothing lines at HOt Topic if they arent on MTV? I think your mistaken... hmmmm...I can recall only seeing Mest on MTV about four times in total (just two of their videos) and I've never seen Mushroom Head on there, and yet...our Hot Topic sells shirts of them:eek: isn't that amazing????

Wicked Lady

11-15-2004, 02:41 PM

Originally posted by Arioch
The difference is REAL musicians dont need a huge signing and shirts with their names on it to feel accomplished....those are business men...and YOU are the market...

Forgive me i forgot the only music that exist is the "successful" musicians with multimillion dollar deals.....:rolleyes:

Continue to gobble the products your fed....you are nothing but a number... wow, it took you longer than I expected to yell at me about this one:rolleyes:

soooo....I guess you expect to get somewhere in you career by having FREE concerts? No matter what you do as a musician you have to feed on the money of your fans or you won't get ANYWHERE, and what about the price it will cost for people to buy your albums? would you rather they download them off the internet?

If you want to make this about money, face it, the world is ran by money and by the people that have that money.

so...you are ALWAYS selling yourself in the music industry, in the movie industry, or even at Wal*Mart, it just matters about who feels like paying for you.

chaplain

11-15-2004, 03:01 PM

I say listen to whatever makes your ears(or brain) happy.Everyone needs to stop fighting about what is pop and what is not.Fuck it all, listen to what you like and fuck everyone else.

bloodrayne

11-15-2004, 08:15 PM

Hate_Breeder

11-15-2004, 08:55 PM

Well i must say i like a lot of underground bands, but i must say i like some televised stuff like HIM, Queens of the Stone Age, The Killers, Jimi Hendrix, and so fourth.

But my theory is....if it sounds good i like it. I dont care if their on MTV, VH1, BET, Fuse, or on a local radio station.

evil_blonde

11-15-2004, 10:09 PM

Originally posted by chaplain
I say listen to whatever makes your ears(or brain) happy.Everyone needs to stop fighting about what is pop and what is not.Fuck it all, listen to what you like and fuck everyone else.

Exactly what I was thinking.

Arioch, I don't wanna get you mad at me, but just one thought.
Just because YOU don't like Good Charlotte, Sum 41 or Blink 182 it doesn't actually mean they are bad at making music, or that they don't have FEELINGS.
I have the feeling you would be saying something similar to what Wicked Lady is saying if she didn't like a band you like for similar reasons.

:(

Wicked Lady

11-16-2004, 12:23 AM

Originally posted by evil_blonde

I have the feeling you would be saying something similar to what Wicked Lady is saying if she didn't like a band you like for similar reasons.

:( No, because his favorite bands are perfect other than the pig slop we're fed:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

LilMissScareAll

11-17-2004, 07:14 AM

I used to be a huge fan of Good Charlotte when their 1st cd came out. :p I don't listen to them much anymore but I definitely don't hate them, either.

Arioch

11-17-2004, 09:33 AM

Its not so much i dont allow people to like what they like, im all about that....

My problem lies within the people who CANNOT stray outside the majority, will NOT support local music, and deny themselves the ability to like anything not on MTV....

And despite popular opinion their is a HUGE range of success between MTV and "Free concerts" that was spoken just like someone whose never been to a local show in her LIFE....

I will always support local and independant (that means a NON big label support band, i know youve never heard that word WL:rolleyes: ) over shit that has huge label support, even bands i like, like NIN, and others....

Im not saying its wrong to like big label bands, they got their for a reason, im saying its wrong to ONLY THINK THEY ARE THE ONLY MUSIC OUT THERE....but some of us are more sheltered than others....

And for the record, i dont own a single NIN shirt, my brother does tho *shrug*

Arioch

11-17-2004, 09:35 AM

hmmmm...I can recall only seeing Mest on MTV about four times in total

LMAO!!! WHOA only 4 times....they must have JUST started!!!:eek: :rolleyes:

Arioch

11-17-2004, 09:43 AM

And for the record, there is a SUBSTANTIAL difference in doing something different musically, and changing the genre...

Like Tool, Like Trent, Like Nirvana, shit that breaks open new streams of music, and they get huge support and fans for it....

And in contrast...

Sum 41, Dashboard Confessions, Stained, Creed, and shit that rehashes old chords and tired melodies with NO unique sound, nothing UNIQUE to offer at all, except a new pretty face and a new catchy hit song....

Some deserve recoginition, and the amount they have been around (for example tool and Trent first albums hit in 1991 and are ONLY GETTING BIGGER) versers these other bands that have NO staying power and have poped up in the last 5 years.....we will see exactly who remembers Good Charlotte for their REVOLUTIONARY NEW SOUND:rolleyes:

Arioch

11-17-2004, 10:05 AM

"All you know about me is what I've sold you,
Dumb fuck
I sold out long before you ever heard my name

I sold my soul to make a record,
Dip shit,
And you bought one

All you read and
Wear or see and
Hear on TV
Is a product
Begging for your
Fatass dirty
Dollar

So...Shut up and

Buy my new record
Send more money
Fuck you, buddy"

Pretty relevant...written by one of your hugely successfull top 40 bands...

Wicked Lady

11-17-2004, 11:41 AM

*speaks in Transylvanian accent* ONE! TWO! THREE! FOUR! FOUR! FOUR POSTS IN A ROW!!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v46/shanes_seri/AQ52626.jpg

sooo, you assume that since people like GC/Sum41/Staind/Creed means that's all they know??? Shane likes all of those bands and then some...do you wanna know one of the bands he looks up to the most? Flaw, ever heard of them? I bet you haven't because they are a LOCAL band here in KY he almost crapped himself recently when he saw them in Guitar World after being a fan for four years...oh, speaking of bands he's been into for four years, Finger Eleven has had 4 albums in total and ONE video on MTV from their newest.

I'm not looking for a "revolutionary sound" I highly doubt anyone is anymore, I'm just looking for music I like:D

BTW...Mest has been around for about 10 years now and had at least 5 albums...so, would you still call that "just starting out?"

oh, and about that free concert comment, you of all people should know how overprotective mom is, I've never been to ANY concert:rolleyes:

Arioch

11-17-2004, 12:15 PM

sooo, you assume that since people like GC/Sum41/Staind/Creed means that's all they know??? Shane likes all of those bands and then some...do you wanna know one of the bands he looks up to the most? Flaw, ever heard of them? I bet you haven't because they are a LOCAL band here in KY he almost crapped himself recently when he saw them in Guitar World after being a fan for four years...oh, speaking of bands he's been into for four years, Finger Eleven has had 4 albums in total and ONE video on MTV from their newest.

No i was pretty much just refurring to you....i know shane has SOME taste;)

And i didn't know your mom wouldnt let you go to ANY concert.....that is a bit crazy isn't it? Pretty lame....
:rolleyes:

bloodrayne

11-17-2004, 12:37 PM

Originally posted by Arioch
i didn't know your mom wouldnt let you go to ANY concert.....that is a bit crazy isn't it? Pretty lame....
:rolleyes: She JUST turned 16...I never went to a concert when, or before I was 16, and I lived :rolleyes:

I do what I can to keep her away from the exposure to drugged and intoxicated people...There is a potential danger there...You know what goes on at concerts...AND maybe I just read too much fucked up news...I figure that if there is one chance in a million of something bad happening to my kids, that's a chance that I'm not willing to take...You'll understand someday...I hope...

Besides...She isn't into massive crowds anyway

Arioch

11-17-2004, 12:48 PM

do what I can to keep her away from the exposure to drugged and intoxicated people...There is a potential danger there...You know what goes on at concerts...AND maybe I just read too much fucked up news...I figure that if there is one chance in a million of something bad happening to my kids, that's a chance that I'm not willing to take...You'll understand someday...I hope...

YOU could always go WITH her and make sure shes ok....thats how i went to my first concert at 12 or 13....*shrug* is that just out of the picture?

And concerts arent THAT bad (depending on the band) most check you for drugs and weapons and shit when you go in and are policed....the smaller clubs id say are worse....where they DONT check for such...

bloodrayne

11-17-2004, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by Arioch
YOU could always go WITH her and make sure shes ok....thats how i went to my first concert at 12 or 13....*shrug* is that just out of the picture?

And concerts arent THAT bad (depending on the band) most check you for drugs and weapons and shit when you go in and are policed....the smaller clubs id say are worse....where they DONT check for such... Thank you...You just made my point....ANY place that has to "check you for drugs and weapons and shit when you go in and are policed" is no place for my child or ME to be:)

Just my opinion...Everyone's entitled to their own :cool:

Arioch

11-17-2004, 02:19 PM

Thank you...You just made my point....ANY place that has to "check you for drugs and weapons and shit when you go in and are policed" is no place for my child or ME to be

LOL arent you going to clubs every night or so you keep telling us? i bet those places are far worse without police and/or bouncers....you wouldnt take her to the places you go? Are they safe enough for you but not for her?

bloodrayne

11-17-2004, 02:32 PM

Originally posted by Arioch
LOL arent you going to clubs every night or so you keep telling us? i bet those places are far worse without police and/or bouncers....you wouldnt take her to the places you go? Are they safe enough for you but not for her? We actually DO have bouncers...We dance with them...lol...And there are MANY places that I can go, that a child CANNOT...I'm an adult

Nothing bad EVER happens at our clubs...We're just cool people like that...Everyone pretty much knows everyone else...And, I don't go EVERY night...Actually, I've cut down to just Monday night and Thursday night...I had to take a break *whew* :D

chaplain

11-17-2004, 02:33 PM

Originally posted by Arioch
And concerts arent THAT bad (depending on the band) most check you for drugs and weapons and shit when you go in and are policed....the smaller clubs id say are worse....where they DONT check for such...

I gotta agree with that, I've done the "harder" drugs at small clubs with local bands, but only seen the occasional joint at the big shows.

Arioch

11-17-2004, 02:41 PM

I gotta agree with that, I've done the "harder" drugs at small clubs with local bands, but only seen the occasional joint at the big shows.

Exactly, shes going on heresay and has no basis of comparason....but what do we know?

bloodrayne

11-17-2004, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by bloodrayne
Maybe I just read too much fucked up news...I figure that if there is one chance in a million of something bad happening to my kids, that's a chance that I'm not willing to take...

Besides...She isn't into massive crowds anyway Heresay?...NEWS is seldom considered 'heresay'...Remember a certain WHO concert?...Among others...I will admit that the MAJOR incidents may be few and far between...BUT...I figure that if there is one chance in a million of something bad happening to my kids, that's a chance that I'm not willing to take :)

Arioch

11-18-2004, 10:05 AM

Remember a certain WHO concert?.

You mean the one where the guitarist swung his guitar above his head by the guitar chord which then promptly let go and the guitar flew into the audiance? That incident?

bloodrayne

11-18-2004, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by Arioch
You mean the one where the guitarist swung his guitar above his head by the guitar chord which then promptly let go and the guitar flew into the audiance? That incident? LMAO...You can't be serious...You're just playing with me right?

THIS incident...

The Who began touring later in 1979, but the tour's momentum was crushed when 11 attendees at the group's December 3, 1979 concert at Cincinnati's Riverfront Coliseum were trampled to death in a rush for choice festival seating. The band wasn't informed of the incident until after the concert was finished, and the tragedy deflated whatever goodwill they had.

Following the Cincinnati concert, the Who slowly fell apart. Townshend became addicted to cocaine, heroin, tranquilizers and alcohol, suffering a near-fatal overdose in 1981.

There are MANY more examples of this type of incident...

Dec. 19, 1987, Nashville, Tenn.: Two teens killed in the crush of a crowd departing from a Public Enemy concert.

Jan. 18, 1991, Salt Lake City: Three teenagers killed when the crowd at an AC-DC concert rushed the stage.

Dec. 28, 1991, New York: Eight suffocated in pileup of people trying to get into City College of New York gymnasium for charity basketball game played by rappers.

July 1, 2000, Copenhagen, Denmark: Eight killed in crush of fans trying to get closer to Pearl Jam at an outdoor concert.

And the list goes on...

Along with multiple reports of fights, stabbings, rapes, etcetera...

It just isn't somewhere that I want my kids to be...That's pretty much all there is to it...So, can we end this now?:)