View Full Version : is there a sequel(s) that are better/good as the original
is there such a thing as a better sequel e.g
I prefer Friday the 13th 6 to the original, whether its better or not is a different question.
I think Mad Max 2 was better than the first one though.
Jeepers creeper 2 possibly
and whoever said Halloween H20 was as good as the original was watching a different film than I was.
Evil Dead and Evil Dead 2 - was there a difference?
urgeok
11-08-2004, 06:14 AM
Final Destination 2 was about 500 X better than the 1st one.
Re Evil Dead ... 2 had a bigger budget and was a great film but it wasnt better than one ...
Hate_Breeder
11-08-2004, 06:32 AM
I thought Terminator 2 was better than the original. Everybody else usually agrees with that one...
Kemal
11-08-2004, 06:40 AM
Hell no, Terminator 2 was not better than the original. Only the special effects were better. The 1984 Terminator was darker and more violent. Arnold was a thousand times better playing the silent, empty killer of the first movie than the touchy-feelie father figure he became in part 2.
The Godfather part two was a tad better than part one.
The Exorcist 3 was hella better than part two but not as good as part one.
I agree with Kemal on The Terminator.
Also...Aliens was better IMO than Alien.
Demon Seed
11-08-2004, 07:26 AM
Evil Dead II is better than the first one, and Army Of Darkness is better than the first 2:cool:
Creepshow II is better than Creepshow
"Thanks for the ride, lady" :D
urgeok
11-08-2004, 07:33 AM
funny - i never liked Godfather 2 as much as 1 ...
But I also agree - in a way - with the Terminator 1 being better.
It was darker and more intense ..
But 2 had the most incredible nuclear explosion footage and the morphing effects were top notch .. as far as to set the bar for a new breed of FX.
So it depends what turns your crank more.
Personally - it depends on my mood ..
bloodrayne
11-08-2004, 07:34 AM
Originally posted by Demon Seed
Creepshow II is better than CreepshowI have to agree with that...
I thought that Nightmare On Elmstreet 3 (Dream Warriors) was every bit as good as Nightmare On Elm Street
I also thought that Halloween 3 (Season Of the Witch) was as good as (if not a little better than) Halloween...But, sorta as a different movie altogether, rather than a sequel :)
urgeok
11-08-2004, 07:35 AM
Originally posted by bloodrayne
I have to agree with that...
I also thought that Halloween 3 (Season Of the Witch) was as good as (if not a little better than) Halloween...But, sorta as a different movie altogether, rather than a sequel :)
get your umbrella ready ... you're going to get a storm on that one :)
Steve_Hutchison
11-08-2004, 07:42 AM
Originally posted by urgeok
Final Destination 2 was about 500 X better than the 1st one.
Don't think so...
The only cases I can think of at the moment are :
Horror:
- Friday the 13th 3, 6 and 7
- Aliens
- Puppet Master 2
- Blair Witch Project 2
- Children of the Corn : Revelation (yup)
- Creepshow 2
- Critters 2
- Prom Night 2&3
- Return of the Living Dead III (IMO, it equals or barely beats the original)
- Dawn of the Dead
Non Horror:
- Back to the Future II (not by far tough)
- Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
bloodrayne
11-08-2004, 07:51 AM
Originally posted by Steve_Hutchison
Return of the Living Dead III (IMO, it equals or barely beats the original)
- Dawn of the Dead BLASPHEMER!:eek:
:D
bloodrayne
11-08-2004, 07:52 AM
Originally posted by urgeok
get your umbrella ready ... you're going to get a storm on that one :) Oh...But..I LOVE storms... :cool: :D
bwind22
11-08-2004, 08:30 AM
It's hard to say with some of those...
I think Dawn of the Dead is far more kickass than NIght of the Living Dead, but then you have to take in to account the era it was made and what they had to work with. For it's time, Night was AWESOME! It spawned a genre and set the standard for zombie movies. That being said, I still personally like Dawn better.
The Terminator one is tricky too, because of the special FX gap between the original and T2. T2 was visually awesome, but I got to go with the original based on the originality of the storyline.
I thought Return of the Living Dead 2 was better/funnier than Return of the Living Dead.
Evil Dead 2 was better than Evil Dead, but it was just the same movie with a bigger budget. (P.S. AOD is good, but not better than Evil Dead.)
Aliens is definately better than Alien.
That's all for now. I'm going to go see Saw.
bride of frankenstein was better than frankenstein
frankenstein meets the wolfman better than wolfman
urgeok
11-08-2004, 09:25 AM
toy story 2 was better than toy story :)
Steve_Hutchison
11-08-2004, 09:34 AM
Originally posted by bloodrayne
BLASPHEMER!:eek:
:D
Hum no I think I'm right. I'm being honnest.
Steve_Hutchison
11-08-2004, 09:38 AM
Originally posted by bwind22
It's hard to say with some of those...
I think Dawn of the Dead is far more kickass than NIght of the Living Dead, but then you have to take in to account the era it was made and what they had to work with. For it's time, Night was AWESOME! It spawned a genre and set the standard for zombie movies. That being said, I still personally like Dawn better.
I don't take into account stuff when I watch a horror movie. If it gets old, then it gets old. You can't live in the past. Tell me, do you guys still light your whole house/appartment with candles?
bloodrayne
11-08-2004, 09:49 AM
Originally posted by Steve_Hutchison
Tell me, do you guys still light your whole house/appartment with candles? Well...Actually..........
lol
Ginger<3
11-08-2004, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by bloodrayne
I have to agree with that...
I thought that Nightmare On Elmstreet 3 (Dream Warriors) was every bit as good as Nightmare On Elm Street
I also thought that Halloween 3 (Season Of the Witch) was as good as (if not a little better than) Halloween...But, sorta as a different movie altogether, rather than a sequel :)
i haven't even seen halloween 3 cause i refused to belive it could be good without michael. :D
Steve_Hutchison
11-08-2004, 10:15 AM
Originally posted by Ginger<3
i haven't even seen halloween 3 cause i refused to belive it could be good without michael. :D
It's an average movie with a very particular theme song.
bloodrayne
11-08-2004, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by Ginger<3
i haven't even seen halloween 3 cause i refused to belive it could be good without michael. :D You really should see it...Just consider it a different movie, independent of the Halloween Series (As I think the producers must have:rolleyes: )...That should help...lol
Oh...And I really thought that Final destination 2 was every bit as good as the first one :cool:
Ginger<3
11-08-2004, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by bloodrayne
You really should see it...Just consider it a different movie, independent of the Halloween Series (As I think the producers must have:rolleyes: )...That should help...lol
Oh...And I really thought that Final destination 2 was every bit as good as the first one :cool:
ok i will. i just could never figure out why theyed make a totally unrelated movie.
urgeok
11-08-2004, 10:22 AM
i thought the 1st one was a kiddie film .. didnt hold my interest at all ..
but number two - it was old school .. the crash was amazing and the kills were inventive .. reminded me of the omen and films of that ilk
bloodrayne
11-08-2004, 10:26 AM
Originally posted by urgeok
reminded me of the omen and films of that ilk That was because of the pipe through the windshield thing, huh? ;)
Much like Exorcist, also
Ginger<3
11-08-2004, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by bloodrayne
That was because of the pipe through the windshield thing, huh? ;)
Much like Exorcist, also
i said OMG so many times during that mvie. i was almost scared to watch when i knew a death was coming.
urgeok
11-08-2004, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by bloodrayne
That was because of the pipe through the windshield thing, huh? ;)
Much like Exorcist, also
not just that .. each death was highly inventive ..the way the horrors used to be back in the day ...
Heretic_Ideals
11-08-2004, 10:36 AM
Originally posted by bloodrayne
You really should see it...Just consider it a different movie, independent of the Halloween Series (As I think the producers must have:rolleyes: )...That should help...lol
Oh...And I really thought that Final destination 2 was every bit as good as the first one :cool:
She's right it is a good flick but i don't think you can compare it as better or worse then the original because other then the title their completely unrelated...........................and yes when you watch it the theme willl stick in your head
Steve_Hutchison
11-08-2004, 10:41 AM
Originally posted by bloodrayne
You really should see it...Just consider it a different movie, independent of the Halloween Series (As I think the producers must have:rolleyes: )...That should help...lol
+ it has more of a halloween vibe than the other Halloween movies. I don't want to spoil anything but kids in this movie aren't just some of those annoying "untouchable" pricks.
Ginger<3
11-08-2004, 10:46 AM
that's it ........... i'm going to blockbuster!
bloodrayne
11-08-2004, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by Steve_Hutchison
+ it has more of a halloween vibe than the other Halloween movies. I don't want to spoil anything but kids in this movie aren't just some of those annoying "untouchable" pricks. Extremely true
@Ginger...We'll be here when you get back...lol
The_Return
11-08-2004, 11:14 AM
Hmmm... I dunno if I can think of any that are better....
But X- Men 2 and Jeepers Creepers 2 were definatly equal, If not better....
Hannibal was about equal to Silence of the Lambs, IMO. Some parts were better
Steve_Hutchison
11-08-2004, 11:16 AM
Jeepers Creepers 2 ?? :eek:
would agree that halloween 3 is ok, perhaps should have been brought out as a separate film, rather than posing as a sequel to an already successful horror flick. They did after all bring Michael back.
I could say the same for Jason X - ie im sure if a different character was in it, it would have been ok. a quick edit of names etc would be all it took; perhaps "slashed in space" for the title, who knows.
I read somewhere that the reason Jason X came out was that producers where planning on Freddy v Jason at the time and needed a filler.
I seem to remember The hills have eyes 2, being pretty good.
MichaelMyers
11-08-2004, 11:21 AM
I thought Ghostbusters II was as good as the original.
urgeok
11-08-2004, 11:22 AM
spiderman 2 was better than 1
jay o2 waster
11-08-2004, 11:24 AM
toxic avenger 4
Steve_Hutchison
11-08-2004, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by MichaelMyers
I thought Ghostbusters II was as good as the original.
I don't.
bwind22
11-08-2004, 01:09 PM
Jeepers Creepers 2 was not better than Jeepers Creepers. At least the first half and the very ending of the first one were original. JC2 is pure Hollywood. (And that's not a good thing.)
I did however, like X-Men 2 better than X-Men. They did Wolverine's character much better in it.
Halloween 3 is cool, but it should have just been called Season of the Witch and had nothing to do with the franchise. Originally they were going to have Michael Myers be/stay dead after the second one, so they took the series in a different direction. Fans got angry that there was no Michael Myers, so they brought him back for #4. I don't think 3 is better than 1 though. For the budget they were one, Halloween and Halloween 2 are works of art!
urgeok
11-08-2004, 01:17 PM
i thought Jeepers Creepers 2 was more even .
I really liked the 1st one until the point where the psychic got involved and the whole police station sequence ..and then it fell on its face
#2 was unique in that it was the one movie where the monsters ass got repeatedly kicked .. I guess i personally thought it was funny ..
The STE
11-08-2004, 01:31 PM
ugh. Halloween 3 sucked, enough so to make my bottom 10
Nemesis412
11-08-2004, 02:28 PM
well i ALWAYS thought T2 was better than T1 but now that I think of it i like the 1st a lil bit more
I hated H3 but i like it even tho myers is still the man
i like creepers 2 more than the 1st more fun
and i like any of the fridays just cuz its fin to watch a masked serial killer
Onikitty
11-08-2004, 07:25 PM
Bad Boys 2 and X2 were both better than the originals.
BUt the "Wheels" joke is gold in X-men.
wufong
11-08-2004, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by Kemal
Hell no, Terminator 2 was not better than the original. Only the special effects were better. The 1984 Terminator was darker and more violent. Arnold was a thousand times better playing the silent, empty killer of the first movie than the touchy-feelie father figure he became in part 2. i agree with you there. same goes with the rambo movies. but other than that, aren't all sequals better than the first? i mean they make them to futher expanded the story line ofthe movie. to finish off any unanswered question left over from the first one...etc. the way you people go on you would think that they only treat sequals as a money making excersize. ya all go on as if they would just rush through any old script just so they can cash in on the opriginal while its still hot property...
Sergio
11-08-2004, 08:29 PM
Originally posted by Demon Seed
Evil Dead II is better than the first one, and Army Of Darkness is better than the first 2:cool:
Creepshow II is better than Creepshow
"Thanks for the ride, lady" :D
I have to agree with you. I loved army of dakness.
"You got 2 things in this town Jack and shit and Jack just left town."
"That's was just pillow talk baby"
Yup Army of darness had some awsome quotes. LOL
Heretic_Ideals
11-09-2004, 10:10 AM
hmm i liked hellraiser 3 better then the first one.
i hated jeepers creepers and thought the second was better but not much cause i found it stupid too.
Anal Invaders 8.5 was better then the first too:D
urgeok
11-09-2004, 10:19 AM
Originally posted by Heretic_Ideals
Anal Invaders 8.5 was better then the first too:D
well, it was more penetrating ...
bwind22
11-09-2004, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by wufong
aren't all sequals better than the first? i mean they make them to futher expanded the story line ofthe movie. to finish off any unanswered question left over from the first one...etc. the way you people go on you would think that they only treat sequals as a money making excersize. ya all go on as if they would just rush through any old script just so they can cash in on the opriginal while its still hot property...
??? The way you say that makes it seem like you don't think it happens all the time...
Have you even seen Matrix Reloaded, Scary Movie 2, or Blair Witch 2?
KRUGERKID13
11-09-2004, 12:50 PM
Halloween 6
Phantasm 2
Beyond Reanimator
flabby_man22
11-09-2004, 02:45 PM
do remakes count as sequals?
if they do, i liked the new TCM beter than the old one
KRUGERKID13
11-09-2004, 02:47 PM
:eek: blasphemy
Steve_Hutchison
11-09-2004, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by bwind22
??? The way you say that makes it seem like you don't think it happens all the time...
Have you even seen Matrix Reloaded, Scary Movie 2, or Blair Witch 2?
Blair Witch 2 was better than the original.
Hate_Breeder
11-09-2004, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by KRUGERKID13
Halloween 6
Phantasm 2
Beyond Reanimator
Nice List.
I loved Beyond Re-Animator :D
KRUGERKID13
11-09-2004, 02:53 PM
thanks hb also...
jason goes to hell
bride of chucky
Steve_Hutchison
11-09-2004, 03:17 PM
WHAT!!?!
KRUGERKID13
11-09-2004, 03:18 PM
what what
Steve_Hutchison
11-09-2004, 03:22 PM
that doesn't make any sense.
KRUGERKID13
11-09-2004, 03:22 PM
what doesnt
bloodrayne
11-09-2004, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by KRUGERKID13
:eek: blasphemy NO SHIT!!!... :eek: :eek: :eek:
Steve_Hutchison
11-09-2004, 03:23 PM
donkeys
KRUGERKID13
11-09-2004, 03:24 PM
lol
yeah can you believe that bllodrayne better then the original wtf
bloodrayne
11-09-2004, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by KRUGERKID13
lol
yeah can you believe that bllodrayne better then the original wtf Impossible...I think I'm in shock :eek:
LOL
Steve_Hutchison
11-09-2004, 03:27 PM
wtf
KRUGERKID13
11-09-2004, 03:27 PM
whats sad is he probably hasnt even seen the original
bloodrayne
11-09-2004, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by KRUGERKID13
whats sad is he probably hasnt even seen the original That's just what I was thinking...The only possibility......OR...He's 12 years old and LOVED the Scream trilogy:rolleyes:
KRUGERKID13
11-09-2004, 03:31 PM
and blair witch makes him pee
bloodrayne
11-09-2004, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by KRUGERKID13
and blair witch makes him pee LMAO...And he thinks Urban Legends is SOOO much better than Night Of The Living Dead (The original, of course) :rolleyes: :D
KRUGERKID13
11-09-2004, 03:43 PM
and the ring was scarier then the exorcist and 28 days later is god
Heretic_Ideals
11-09-2004, 03:46 PM
damn that is sad in no way is the remake of TCM anywhere near as good as the original hell they don't even say the word headcheese in the remake and that was the original title of the original.........you bastard.
bloodrayne
11-09-2004, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by KRUGERKID13
and the ring was scarier then the exorcist and 28 days later is god LMAO.....And American Werewolf In London is WAAAYYY better than Dog Soldiers:rolleyes:
KRUGERKID13
11-09-2004, 03:48 PM
actually leatherface was then headcheese then tcm
Heretic_Ideals
11-09-2004, 03:50 PM
hell i didnt know that.........so then they just called the second one leatherface.
KRUGERKID13
11-09-2004, 03:52 PM
the 3rd one was letherface
Heretic_Ideals
11-09-2004, 03:59 PM
oh shit *dips head in shame*
KRUGERKID13
11-09-2004, 04:00 PM
lol
Steve_Hutchison
11-09-2004, 04:03 PM
keep it coming!!
Nemesis412
11-09-2004, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by flabby_man22
do remakes count as sequals?
if they do, i liked the new TCM beter than the old one
yeah TCM was good but i liked the new one alot more. I liked TCM but i didnt think it was that great. I also think alot of people say the 1st one is great and its a classic just to be cool. same with the exorcist people say it was so great and scary and it really wasnt
KRUGERKID13
11-09-2004, 04:08 PM
your wrong and stupid
Nemesis412
11-09-2004, 04:15 PM
Actually.... I hated the Scream trilogy, i about puked i was so disgusted with 28 days later i thought the ring WAS better than the exorcist and AMIL was 10 TIMES BETTER than dog soldiers
Nemesis412
11-09-2004, 04:17 PM
You guys can call me stupid but dont EVER say i liked scream YACK
Steve_Hutchison
11-09-2004, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by Nemesis412
Actually.... I hated the Scream trilogy
Most horror movies must be dead boring to you.
Nemesis412
11-09-2004, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by KRUGERKID13
whats sad is he probably hasnt even seen the original
i never said i didnt like it its just ungodly movies like everyone makes it out to be
and im 16 ive seen the original TCM quite a few times
I was saddened to know that blair witch sucked i didnt even go see the 2nd one
i hated urban legends and i know what u did last summer and valentine and all that dumb shit
and i LOVE night of the livivng dead.....now i thought the original was alot better than the remake
Nemesis412
11-09-2004, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by Steve_Hutchison
[B]Most horror movies must be dead boring to you. [/B
]
what makes you think that
wufong
11-09-2004, 09:12 PM
sherk 2
Originally posted by wufong
sherk 2
u cant be serious....
shrek 2 was a snooze fest. all it was was trolls rolling around having drama that dont even make sense
the cat and giant gingerbread man saved that movie.
ShankS
11-09-2004, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by gren
u cant be serious....
knowing wu .....he's probably joking.
wufong
11-10-2004, 12:28 AM
nah that scene where pinochio(sp) was lying about wearing womens underwear killed me
Heretic_Ideals
11-10-2004, 10:20 AM
I about died laughing when they said "we got catnip" haha and the cats like "thats no mine" haha
urgeok
11-10-2004, 10:22 AM
i loved all of the other movie references .. like the cat coming through Shreks shirt a la Alien.
Nemesis412
11-10-2004, 02:10 PM
lol i love both of them and puss in boots was so fuckin hilarious