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Carp
10-28-2004, 05:23 AM
Recently saw Hallowe'en 3 on tv, after hearing about it a while ago - basically, it has nothing to do with the story of the original, or indeed Mike Myers him/itself, and as such was slated by fans of the series. I personally thought it was the best of the sequels I've seen (in a cheesy, B-movie-ish way), but what do you think? Do horror sequels have to be closely related to their originals, or should they be more about loosely-related new stories? What's your favourite Hallowe'en sequel.

Joker
10-28-2004, 06:13 PM
IMO if your going to do a remake you need to do it with the original director's consent and approval to deter those that are just trying to make a quick buck by throwing together trash. A sequel should not change in tone from the first or try and change the story in any drastic way; if you don't want to do this than don't make a sequel, come up with something entirely original.

KRUGERKID13
10-28-2004, 08:18 PM
its called a sequal for a reason its supposed to follow up the one before it and halloween 3 did not i do think its a good movie in its own right but not as a halloween sequal

EXTR3MIST
10-29-2004, 03:29 AM
At last - sense!

Season of the Witch is a top horror movie, but for some inexplicable reason many folk dismiss it out of hand because it has nothing to do with Michael Myers.

If viewers can get over this fact, and understand John Carpenter (who produced Halloween 3) was not trying to rip Myers fans off in selling them a dud under a marketable name (like many Italian movies are notorious for), then perhaps the film can be re-evaluated and appreciated for what it is... rather than for what is anticipated.

Some horror franchise fans obviously command strict rules for each new instalment... but it all sounds awfully restrictive to me, and if one different movie comes along that upsets the neat DVD boxset up on their shelves then all the better.

urgeok
10-29-2004, 05:43 AM
I've always liked season of the witch ...

But wasnt there one Halloween where Michael wasnt the killer ..
(you kept seeing a black pointed toe boot ... and it was never explained who the guy was.)

I havent seen it in a long time so I might be mixing it up with the Friday the 13th series where one of them (besides #1) had no Jason...just some loser copycat.

Demonic Faces
10-31-2004, 11:17 AM
season of the witch was ok, its not the greatest but its a good way to kill 1hr and 30 minutes

Demonic Faces
10-31-2004, 11:19 AM
my fav sequal is number 2

MichaelMyers
10-31-2004, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by Demonic Faces
my fav sequal is number 2

Yep.

g star
10-31-2004, 04:40 PM
i heard somewhere that the makers of halloween had an idea to release a new sequel every halloween with an entirely different storyline. but because fans were so outraged by SOTW they brought myers back.

friday13thfan
10-31-2004, 05:00 PM
3 is gay im mean killer masks, buttons and commercals how lame is that... i count 1 and 2 as the same movie cause it starts right after each other

EXTR3MIST
11-01-2004, 10:57 AM
Hmmm... yes- in light of this new evidence, Halloween 3 is clearly a homosexual movie.

Then again, doesn't Michael Myers brandish his knife rather like an erect penis? And what about all that heavy breathing? And all this while he's wearing a sweaty Bill Shatner mask???

Whoa!

zwoti
11-01-2004, 11:06 AM
Originally posted by EXTR3MIST
Hmmm... yes- in light of this new evidence, Halloween 3 is clearly a homosexual movie.

Then again, doesn't Michael Myers brandish his knife rather like an erect penis? And what about all that heavy breathing? And all this while he's wearing a sweaty Bill Shatner mask???

Whoa!

are we "outing" michael now?

urgeok
11-01-2004, 11:06 AM
meyers is 100% bisexual ... like Elton John.

He'll stick it into men or women alike ..

an equal opportunity killer !

EXTR3MIST
11-01-2004, 11:12 AM
I love those black pumps he's wearing in Halloween 5.

urgeok
11-01-2004, 11:18 AM
thats the real reason he wears a mask ..

he made a mess out of his eyebrows in a plucking frenzy and he's waiting for them to grow back.
All that killin' messes up his lip gloss too.

EXTR3MIST
11-01-2004, 11:39 AM
That'll be why he stabbed his sister- he wanted her out of the way so he could try on her bras.

urgeok
11-01-2004, 11:42 AM
Halloween XII - The Curse of Michelle Meyers

FairyKorpes
11-01-2004, 03:22 PM
I watched 1 and half of 2 last night. I was watching and talking on the phone lol but can anyone tell me aside from him knowing his sister did it, why he turned the way he did? I mean is that it? He thought she was a harrlott (sp?) and needed to die? Being he was so young did he known about sex?

Gawd i need to know there is some deep seeded meaning to his turing crazy.

Hate_Breeder
11-01-2004, 05:24 PM
Halloween 3 = Shitiest Sequel.....of all time......in the history.......of the world.

(Thats my computer version of James Lipton)

urgeok
11-01-2004, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by FairyKorpes
I watched 1 and half of 2 last night. I was watching and talking on the phone lol but can anyone tell me aside from him knowing his sister did it, why he turned the way he did? I mean is that it? He thought she was a harrlott (sp?) and needed to die? Being he was so young did he known about sex?

Gawd i need to know there is some deep seeded meaning to his turing crazy.


I dont think he turned crazy .. he was always crazy.
The embodiment of evil as Mr Plesence would say.

I think he just decided to get with the killing that night.

Well, it worked for the movie anyway :)

EXTR3MIST
11-02-2004, 03:31 AM
can anyone tell me aside from him knowing his sister did it, why he turned the way he did? I mean is that it? He thought she was a harrlott (sp?) and needed to die? Being he was so young did he known about sex?

Good point- isn't there some reference to this in the ensuing psycho-analysis of the young Michael Myers?

Nemesis412
11-02-2004, 01:49 PM
i actually liked H3 after yrs of hating it

But yes sequels should stay with the main attraction

i mean i didnt start to like myers and then have another movie have nothing to do with him
i love how sequels get worse and worse it makes my fan bas keep going

and shut the hell up myers isnt gay even if he was hes still a badass

EXTR3MIST
11-03-2004, 03:53 AM
and shut the hell up myers isnt gay even if he was hes still a badass

His ass sure has been bad.

Again, it's strange how folk place the "odd-one-out"-ness of Halloween 3 above actual critique of the film itself.

urgeok
11-03-2004, 05:53 AM
I dont look at #3 as a sequel ....
I do critique it as a film on its own ...

I really dont have a great explaination as to why i like it .. its 'one of those things'

I saw it when it came out ... If i saw it today I'd probably be making comparrisons and wouldnt like it as much .. maybe its a nostalgia thing for me.

Nemesis412
11-03-2004, 11:45 AM
yeah fucking right myers will never be had. name a series thats good all the way through u couldnt

myers last movie did suck some nuts somewhat but no hes still goin

thats if your a fan

dantehorrorfan
11-03-2004, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by Nemesis412
yeah fucking right myers will never be had. name a series thats good all the way through u couldnt

myers last movie did suck some nuts somewhat but no hes still goin

thats if your a fan i got one series Nightmare On Elm Street and for halloween all the sequels sucked except 2,4,5,6

EXTR3MIST
11-04-2004, 03:12 AM
myers last movie did suck some nuts somewhat

Told you he was gay.

Nemesis412
11-04-2004, 02:38 PM
yeah fuckin right if u were standing right next to myers is he was real you wouldnt be saying he sucked hed rip you 2 new assholes and maybe another mouth if you asked him

chaplain
11-04-2004, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by Nemesis412
yeah fuckin right if u were standing right next to myers is he was real you wouldnt be saying he sucked hed rip you 2 new assholes and maybe another mouth if you asked him


Thats true, or maybe you just suck.

allmykids
11-04-2004, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by chaplain
Thats true, or maybe you just suck.

He just sucks!!

Nemesis412
11-04-2004, 03:37 PM
right thats coming from a person who likes evil dead which was ok and another thaqt has a name named after a damn soap opera so yeah right i wouldnt be talkin bitches

chaplain
11-04-2004, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by Nemesis412
right thats coming from a person who likes evil dead which was ok and another thaqt has a name named after a damn soap opera so yeah right i wouldnt be talkin bitches


This coming from a guy named after a RE character.:rolleyes:

Nemesis412
11-04-2004, 04:04 PM
yeah nemesis was a badass character. ash......wasnt

chaplain
11-04-2004, 04:08 PM
Originally posted by Nemesis412
yeah nemesis was a badass character. ash......wasnt


I hope that was a joke.

urgeok
11-04-2004, 04:21 PM
this is getting kind of grade 5-ish

chaplain
11-04-2004, 04:24 PM
I just hope he isn't serious about comparing Ash to a shitty RE character.

EXTR3MIST
11-05-2004, 03:37 AM
yeah fuckin right if u were standing right next to myers is he was real you wouldnt be saying he sucked hed rip you 2 new assholes and maybe another mouth if you asked him

Gotta admit, if I found myself standing next to the real Michael I'd shit my fucking pants.

Then I'd get my pal Real Leatherface to saw the puff in half.

urgeok
11-05-2004, 05:36 AM
if i was standing next to Michael Myers then i would be terrified because it would mean the the entire fabric of my univers has broken down and i would have become either completely insane (seeing fictional characters in real life) or I would have to admit that the paranormal exists which goes against everything i have ever believed in.

But i think i'm safe in saying that the guy really doesnt exist other than as a stuntman in a mask. In which case if i was standing beside him I'd politely ask for an autograph and maybe a picture together where he was pretending to kill me.

Nemesis412
11-05-2004, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by urgeok
if i was standing next to Michael Myers then i would be terrified because it would mean the the entire fabric of my univers has broken down and i would have become either completely insane (seeing fictional characters in real life) or I would have to admit that the paranormal exists which goes against everything i have ever believed in.

But i think i'm safe in saying that the guy really doesnt exist other than as a stuntman in a mask. In which case if i was standing beside him I'd politely ask for an autograph and maybe a picture together where he was pretending to kill me.

Yeah thats true lol and yeah i was serious.....even tho silent hill still WAAAAAY better than resident evil nemesis is kickass

PR3SSUR3
10-04-2005, 05:59 AM
Watching Halloween 2 for the first time in ages again, I noticed how haphazard this series is.

- Laurie Strode is revealed as another sister of Michael's, "sent away" by Mr & Mrs Myers after Michael killed his first sister

- She survives Halloween 2, while Dr Loomis is clearly no more after the huge explosion in the hospital. Michael, too, is seen burning to a crisp at the end - flames even roaring from the eye-sockets of his mask

- After the (welcome) plot detour of Season of the Witch, Mike is back - a little crispy, but otherwise intact (!). Dr Loomis also returns with a few scars to show for his engulfment in flames. But Laurie has been killed in a car crash with her husband, leaving her daughter to be pursued this time around

- Loomis eventually carks it (they had no choice this time, since Donald Pleasance died), but, Laurie is back - her death apparently "faked".

On top of these contrived plot developments - the desperate moves of greedy franchise producers of course - Michael has been shot, sliced and diced to ridiculous levels. Up 'till the end of Halloween 2 we could just about buy a semi-indestructiable monster of a human being... but what are we up to now, number 9?

...aren't you lot starting to feel a little patronised by having this same bogeyman repackaged and resold to you time and time again?

Narg
10-04-2005, 08:22 PM
I always look at it the same way. Halloween was meant to be a one time film...one story, told and done with. Then Carpenter caved and quickly did a second film...which again, he had every intention of it being the last. He killed Michael Myers.

Then all hell broke loose...

I enjoyed the sequels as they came out, I was younger and just happy to see any horror film in the theatre. Now...I hate them all and have no need for them.

Michael Myers still remains my favorite "Scary" guy...although my favorite horror character ever is easily Bub.

filmmaker2
10-05-2005, 04:12 PM
wHAT filmis ash off?

crazy raplh
10-05-2005, 04:29 PM
Liked 1,2, and H20

crazy raplh
10-05-2005, 04:30 PM
Originally posted by filmmaker2
wHAT filmis ash off?


evil dead 1 and 2, army of darkness

IDrinkYourBlood
10-06-2005, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by filmmaker2
wHAT filmis ash off? Pokemon: The First Movie