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Shade
02-27-2004, 05:56 PM
In my opinion the Japanese make some of the most disturbing horror out there. I mean you have Ichi the Killer, Battle Royale, Versus, Evil Dead Trap, the Ringu movies, Another Heaven...okay...I hated that last one but other than that they have some of the best titles out there. What think you guys?
Sam The Egg
02-27-2004, 06:41 PM
as far as Japanese movies go, the Kurosawas (Akira and Kiyoshi) are the best. Akira Kurosawa is far, far better IMO, but Kiyoshi Kurosawa does the best of the Japanese Horror (Kaïro has a pretty good spot on my top 50 list). Takashi Miike is good, too, but at times he goes too much for being weird or artsy or just 'out there' and not enough for entertainment. He's effective either way, Visitor Q did a good job of making me uncomfortable in a couple spots, but it wasn't entertaining. His best work was, again IMO, Ichi the Killer. Ringu is great, too. It is, like Paradise Lost, a placeholder for my top movie list (it was at 25, then 50. It's not on the list now, but if I took a movie off somewhere for whatever reason, it would temporarily get that spot). There are some great movies that I don't consider horror, but are close, too. Battle Royale is great, one of the best movies I've ever seen, and Versus, which could easily be called horror but has a kind of ingenious way of defying categorization, is almost the anti-Miike, in that it seems to aim completely away from being artsy or taking its self seriously at all, and goes straight to being awesome. A lot of movies are like that, but I've yet to see one do it as well as Versus.
Man, I just went all over the place there. Try and sort all that out if you want. There's a lot of BAAAD Japanese horror movies out there, too, but I chose to ignore them for now.
Ritualistic
02-27-2004, 07:04 PM
Japs ROCK.....
nah but for real I fucking love japanese horror have been a fan of it for years...
Sam The Egg
02-27-2004, 07:21 PM
one thing that irks me....people seem to talk about movies from Japan like it's a genre. Not a big complaint, just a little thing that annoys me
ShankS
02-28-2004, 01:22 AM
after joing these forums, I've just got into Jap Horror, and I'm pretty impressed by the few that I've seen so far, Audition, Dark Water and Double Vision. There's quite a few on my list I'll be getting soon.... Versus and the Ringu films etc.
:)
TrueFan
08-05-2004, 09:00 AM
With films like The Eye, Ju-on...Three coming out of Japan, the future of true horror finally looks brighter!
zwoti
08-05-2004, 09:46 AM
dark water, st john's wort etc...
TrueFan
08-05-2004, 09:49 AM
St. Johns is a bit campy, but well done I suppose. the Phone is creepy. Watch out for the Pang borthers, they put out great stuff, Ringu...Ju-on.. Also, Suicide Circle was great
feral cat
08-05-2004, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by TrueFan
With films like The Eye, Ju-on...Three coming out of Japan, the future of true horror finally looks brighter!
Only 3? ... hmm ... what are you a true fan of again???
The Eye a Jap film?
I like you your funny!:D
Darkshade
08-08-2004, 07:49 PM
I guess it ain't always too easy to recognize the country at first (I had some problems myself in the beginning) bu there is a truth to it. I would not say that Japan is the only one, but for us westeners who has grown really tired of the so called Horror movies (most of them only medicore Thrillers) that gets poured out of Hollywood, the entire Asian horror movie production has proven (in my opinion) to be an Eye opener... The first time in 15 years I have actually been scared by a movie was when I wached Ju-On the first time (In a dark room with lots of sound :)
There is just one thing I can't stand with it... Why the f''' can't Hollywood keep theire ugly hands off the good movies? They wreked Ringu, and here the other day I heared a rumor thet they are planning a remake of Ju-On!!!
Pleas... Someone... Put that rumor to shame by telling me it isn't so!!!
But, anyway... The asian horror movies rock (not only the japanese)
Darkshade
Living/Dead
08-08-2004, 08:57 PM
I'd like to get into more Asian produced horror movies, so far all I've basically saw was Audition and I thought it was great. It's really hard to find anything, even at Blockbuster all they have is Ringu and Ichi the Killer; none of which are the uncut versions :(.
zwoti
08-08-2004, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by Darkshade
They wreked Ringu, and here the other day I heared a rumor thet they are planning a remake of Ju-On!!!
Pleas... Someone... Put that rumor to shame by telling me it isn't so!!!
Darkshade
too late, remake finished and ready for release
Hate_Breeder
08-08-2004, 11:41 PM
Originally posted by zwoti
too late, remake finished and ready for release
oooo burn
Living/Dead
08-09-2004, 07:43 AM
Could anyone give me a short review on Ju-On, I've never heard anything about it?
ShankS
08-09-2004, 09:21 AM
TrueFan might have....... but he's banned mwah mwahm waahaaaa!!!
:D ;)
Vleeshaak
08-09-2004, 03:35 PM
Originally posted by Living/Dead
Could anyone give me a short review on Ju-On, I've never heard anything about it?
Ju-On the Grudge is all about a Curse. When people die in rage, the curse is created and everyone who counters that curse is, well, fucked. In a house a woman and her boy are killed and they come back from the dead to freak the hell outof anyone who dares to enter their house.
The atmosphere of Ju-On is very, very creepy. The gohst are freaky and can apear when you least expect it, creating some excelent scares.
The only downpoint I can think of (for some people), is the story. It`s not linear and very vague. Like in most asian horrors, you are expected to solve the puzzle for yourself and if you don`t like doing that, you can be very confused.
But in all it`s just a great horrorflick
4/5
Emancipator
08-10-2004, 08:30 AM
Originally posted by Living/Dead
Could anyone give me a short review on Ju-On, I've never heard anything about it?
The film synopsis is here.
http://moviesonline.ca/movie_details.php?movie=Ju-On
I will ask Luke if he can do a review of it, he is a HUGE asian horror fan and speaks highly of Ju-on. I myself have not seen it.
Sorry i could not help much more.
eBuzzz
08-17-2004, 02:38 AM
I rented Chaos about a couple weeks ago. That movie is so confusing. They keep going back and forth and back again. It's fine if you do it a few times. But doing it more than a few, it tends to get confusing. Took me a while to understand the movie. I had to watch it again, lol.
I want to watch the Ju-On movies before I see The Grudge so that I can compare and stuff. I've seen clips of the movie as well as the first 8 minutes of it on IFilm.com, and it looked real bad.
The acting, sets, a lot of stuff. There's a scene in the beginning where the lady walks to this one house. Then she jumps when she sees the front of the house and they have that scary jump music. And it was just a regular house! Nothing to be scared of. It was so corny.
luke_dm5
09-21-2004, 08:54 PM
What is everyone's opinion on Japanese horror ? I really like the movies that have been released in the last few years like the RING cycle, THE GRUGDE 1 & 2 and DARK WATER. I find the Japanese are very good at creating fear even without language.
zwoti
09-21-2004, 11:17 PM
do i like japanese horror?
yes
ShankS
09-22-2004, 12:26 AM
Originally posted by zwoti
do i like japanese horror?
yes
zwoti
09-22-2004, 04:00 AM
Originally posted by ShankS
easy there, don't rush yourself
Vodstok
09-22-2004, 04:19 AM
Im not a huge fan, but i dont think it is crap.
Im just a western boy, i guess. Cheeseburgers and Chainsaw Massacres for me :)
Originally posted by luke_dm5
What is everyone's opinion on Japanese horror ? I really like the movies that have been released in the last few years like the RING cycle, THE GRUGDE 1 & 2 and DARK WATER. I find the Japanese are very good at creating fear even without language.
yup
horrorchic
09-22-2004, 10:09 AM
I like the styles that they use mostly. Akward angles and long shots keep me aticipating for the next kill. The Ring was very good in the japanese version, but i liked the americanized one better. I feel that we bring more to the screen actor-wise this time. Though the ending was a lot harsher for the japanese one. I've always suggested to watch both, so that my friends could get both of the different endings.
nine9
09-22-2004, 10:28 AM
I haven't seen alot of them, just Ringu and The Eye, but I thought both were excellent! Really want to see Dark Water but I can't find it. :(
Proteus
09-22-2004, 10:47 AM
I personally like the older asian movies better then the "New Wave" flicks wonder when this trend is gonna burn out?
Proteus
ShankS
09-22-2004, 11:10 AM
Originally posted by zwoti
easy there, don't rush yourself
I dont.
MichaelMyers
09-22-2004, 11:30 AM
Definitely. Ringu, Battle Royale, Versus, all great stuff.
IDrinkYourBlood
09-23-2004, 10:38 AM
i like the older horror over from the east "aaahhh tah faa eeaas ide"
feral cat
09-24-2004, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by Proteus
I personally like the older asian movies better then the "New Wave" flicks wonder when this trend is gonna burn out?
Proteus
It will become saturated the themes will become clichéd and people will move on soon!
… But until then I still love the stuff coming out of Japan and the Far East!
thepsychicfetus
09-24-2004, 12:08 PM
yup
ringu = suck
idk if its "japanese" but Mr. Vampire was pretty bad ass
thats about the extent of my japanese viewing pleasure
Sam The Egg
09-24-2004, 03:17 PM
bah, I don't like to have to READ my movies, tyvm
SamCostello
09-24-2004, 03:22 PM
Yup, I like Japanese horror. I love Takashi Miike's work. His _Audition_ is one of the best horror films I've ever seen.
Japanese horror comics are also great (as are some Korean ones). Junji Ito's work, especially Uzumaki, is better than any English-language horror being published right now.
Sam
wufong
09-24-2004, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by Proteus
I personally like the older asian movies better then the "New Wave" flicks wonder when this trend is gonna burn out?
Proteus
you mean movies like godzilla? lol lol
rakechan
09-25-2004, 02:00 PM
I like Japanese horror, and a lot of the new stuff coming out of Asia's top! I loved Ringu and Dark water, recently saw Kairo too which was delightful. There are, however a few exceptions to the rule- I'm not entirely certain about Juon (the grudge) though... when I saw the previews I thought it looked absolutely terrifying, but the fact is, I just couldn't find a small child in blue make up frightening... it seemed to be somewhat taking advantage of the fact that absolutely any horror film from Asia will be a hit at the mo, and so it just took elements from all the other sucessful films and remixed them. Just my opinion, though! ^_^
The classics, like Kwaidan, etc. are excellent too! I recently got hold of a copy of Onibaba which I'm looking forward to with great anticipation- asia does ghosts with style! ^_^
zwoti
09-26-2004, 05:30 AM
Originally posted by rakechan
I like Japanese horror, and a lot of the new stuff coming out of Asia's top! I loved Ringu and Dark water, recently saw Kairo too which was delightful.
kairo was enjoyable. just something else feardotcom ripped off.
Proteus
09-26-2004, 06:41 AM
Originally posted by wufong
you mean movies like godzilla? lol lol
LOL nothing wrong with a good Godzilla flick lol but like
Rakechan mention classics like Onibaba and Kwaidan are super high on my list of coarse there way more sutle then the newer stuff but there shot with passion and have excellent storys and are quite creepy in parts!
Other would have to Include Bride with White hair,Encounters of the Spooky kind,Mr Vampire hell even newer ones like Evil Dead Trap and The Cure deserve more attention!
Proteus
Dr_Freudstein
09-29-2004, 12:00 PM
i myself prefer hong kong horror flicks.
heard so much hype about ringu that when i watched it, it turned out to be a beeg let down. creepy tv scene but the rest was rubbish . .. boring as hell
I do fancy Uzumaki, bio Zombie and junk . .. and maybe Ebola but for now i'll cherish my hkl se mr vampire dvd . . .
Sam The Egg
09-29-2004, 12:41 PM
I'll be getting Kwaidan next week, never seen it but it's probably great
MrShape
09-30-2004, 09:57 AM
Originally posted by nine9
I haven't seen alot of them, just Ringu and The Eye, but I thought both were excellent! Really want to see Dark Water but I can't find it. :(
The Eye is a Hong Kong film, actually. Dark Water can be found at AsianCult.com or VideoDaikaiju.com.
MrShape
09-30-2004, 09:59 AM
I love jap horror, depending on what it is. I like the Ring movies, all four of the Grudge films, and the like. Also, South Korea has been making some pretty cool (if diriviative) horror films of late like Nightmare and Phone.
SourMilk
09-30-2004, 11:36 AM
Big Fan of Jap horror.. I have the Ring, Ring 2, and Ring 0 and Dark water and Versus.. Battle Royale is one hell of a movie too, One i still need to purchase.. I rented out Battle royale 2 last night.. Great flick but in my opinion not as good as the first..
Spirited away is a pretty slick flick for Jap animie and story...
Watching Jap flicks has got me intrested in to learning Japenese so i can understand what there saying without having to go square eyed reading the subtitles...
:)
N0Hypocrites
10-01-2004, 12:21 AM
I got 'Junk' recently. It's supposedly a cross between 'Dawn of the Dead' and 'Reservoir Dogs' (or tries a little too hard to be I'd say). It was still pretty cool though. I just hate the fact I can't seem to get subtitles onto a VCD of it now like I used to do. 'Junk' and 'Passion of The Christ' are eating up way too much hard drive space (both need subtitles) and I've got a film to edit at the moment. Argh!
CK
Kristy Langford
10-01-2004, 03:26 AM
I am a huge fan of Japanese horror especially Versus, Junk, Ringu, Wild Zero and Bio-Zombie.
zwoti
10-01-2004, 03:31 AM
anyone else seen "a living hell".....how about "another heaven"?
EXTR3MIST
10-01-2004, 04:03 AM
The Eye is a Hong Kong film, actually
...of Thai origin.
Wherever Oriental movies are produced, they certainly have become hip to seek out in recent years - no doubt down to the increasingly jaded audience of lightweight American post-modern horror hokum, and the glut of new European labels dedicated to distributing them in the West.
Sometimes the hilarity of poorly translated subtitles on some discs is worth the admission price alone: "Crash his penis!", "Ah, the story of the urinating Mahjong!", "You ruined our artwork! I'll tear your ass to shreds!".
Lotsa fun.
SamCostello
10-01-2004, 04:48 AM
Originally posted by zwoti
anyone else seen "a living hell".....how about "another heaven"?
I saw Another Heaven. It starts out pretty strong (though there's a bit too much played for comedy at first) but then just drags and when you finally get to the end, it just stops making sense, or being so smart, all together.
Good set up, bad execution.
Sam
ichi the killer
10-11-2004, 08:30 AM
OK. I'm a noob & i'm going to get bashed for this but WTF.
I can see a few of you are into jap horror, but not many posts. I've got all the RING films(which piss over the remake) Dark water, JUON, Versus, Audition, Battle royale 1+2, Evil dead Trap, The Eye, Tetsuo, What are your favourites? Have i missed any thing out? (i'm not into tortue films & hated Men behind the sun.) And does any one know where i can get KAIRO, directed by Kiyoshi Kurosawa.
zwoti
10-11-2004, 08:32 AM
got my copy from ebay
ichi the killer
10-11-2004, 08:37 AM
Originally posted by zwoti
got my copy from ebay
any good?
zwoti
10-11-2004, 08:39 AM
kairo is ok
ShankS
10-11-2004, 11:09 AM
Originally posted by ichi the killer
OK. I'm a noob & i'm going to get bashed for this but WTF.
I can see a few of you are into jap horror, but not many posts. I've got all the RING films(which piss over the remake) Dark water, JUON, Versus, Audition, Battle royale 1+2, Evil dead Trap, The Eye, Tetsuo, What are your favourites? Have i missed any thing out? (i'm not into tortue films & hated Men behind the sun.) And does any one know where i can get KAIRO, directed by Kiyoshi Kurosawa.
get Double Vision and Story of Ricky.
zwoti
10-11-2004, 11:14 AM
Originally posted by ShankS
get Double Vision and Story of Ricky.
riki-oh rocks
http://www.geocities.com/neverwatchthismovie/images/riki2.jpg
ShankS
10-11-2004, 11:23 AM
Originally posted by zwoti
riki-oh rocks
http://www.geocities.com/neverwatchthismovie/images/riki2.jpg
It sure does!!! super film.
Vodstok
10-11-2004, 11:27 AM
Is that the hero from the mortal kombat movie? sure look slike him.....
zwoti
10-11-2004, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by Vodstok
Is that the hero from the mortal kombat movie? sure look slike him.....
no it isn't , though robin shou (thinks that was the blokes name from MK) did some HK action flicks.
ichi the killer
10-11-2004, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by ShankS
get Double Vision and Story of Ricky.
got story of ricky. Have'nt got double vision. can i get it on region 2 or do i have to import from japan?
Dark_Hero
10-11-2004, 12:53 PM
Im gonna get "The Eye" sometime soon, I dunno what itz REALLY rated, but blockbster has a 14 tag on it :D
ShankS
10-11-2004, 11:49 PM
Originally posted by ichi the killer
got story of ricky. Have'nt got double vision. can i get it on region 2 or do i have to import from japan?
Play.com have Double Vision R2 format for 8 quid. (http://www.play.com/play247.asp?page=title&r=R2&title=143760&p=57&g=72)
:)
ichi the killer
10-12-2004, 07:14 AM
Originally posted by ShankS
Play.com have Double Vision R2 format for 8 quid. (http://www.play.com/play247.asp?page=title&r=R2&title=143760&p=57&g=72)
:)
thanks for that will get it today
The Mothman
02-05-2005, 03:14 PM
do thse japanese horror movies have subtitles, or are they dubbed?
Just picked up JU-ON. I'll be watching it tonight.
Angra
02-06-2005, 03:32 AM
Originally posted by The Mothman
do thse japanese horror movies have subtitles, or are they dubbed?
Subtitles
The STE
02-06-2005, 10:10 AM
Kaïro = one of the best movies of all time
majorbludd
02-06-2005, 10:43 AM
ive only seen kairo once, the mood is terrifying, i remember the menu screens and setup screens on the dvd scaring me...but i think i missed somethin along the way...need to revisit.
The STE
02-06-2005, 10:48 AM
Yeah, the plot is super-complicated, and a lot of it is left up to personal interpritation.
Angra
02-06-2005, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by The STE
Yeah, the plot is super-complicated, and a lot of it is left up to personal interpritation.
Yes, great story. Love the scene in the "forbidden room" where the weird walking ghost lady comes towards the boy who stands paralyzed with fear. Thats creepy as hell.:)
ItsAlive75
02-06-2005, 01:41 PM
Freeze.
Good stuff.
bloodrayne
09-13-2005, 06:44 AM
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horrorchic
02-26-2008, 04:23 AM
I personally like the older asian movies better then the "New Wave" flicks wonder when this trend is gonna burn out?
Proteus
That was posted in 2004.... It is 2008 shit, I guess it will never end, they just started another Americanized Japanese film.