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Old 08-11-2014, 07:25 AM
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Due to lack of interest/voters/supporters, I'll have to close this compilation.

No choice.
Sometimes it's not even interest, for instance I don't really see a jumping off point for a lot of discussion you know? When somebody brings up a movie I can discuss its merits or flaws but when I'm staring at a list of 50 films that I haven't supported directly or opposed there's not much for me to talk about. Maybe if you do start this back up we can break down the list and discuss a few movies at a time? I don't know, good stuff either way.
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Old 01-09-2015, 01:28 AM
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Reviving this unfinished project so that we may complete it.

To refresh the memories, we have already shortlisted 63 films from the Master List so far. They are:
  • Casablanca
    Raiders Of The Lost Ark
    Star Wars
    Citizen Kane
    Schindler's List
    The Wizard Of Oz
    2001: A Space Odyssey
    Dr. Strangelove
    Metropolis
    The Godfather
    The Shawshank Redemption
    One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest
    To Kill A Mockingbird
    Vertigo
    Dog Day Afternoon
    Gone With The Wind
    It's a Wonderful Life
    Monty Python & The Holy Grail
    Saving Private Ryan
    The Empire Strikes Back
    12 Angry Men
    Apocalypse Now
    Blade Runner
    Close Encounters Of The Third Kind
    North By Northwest
    Rashomon
    Rocky
    Seven Samurai
    Terminator 2: Judgment Day
    The Dark Knight
    The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
    The Lord of the Rings
    The Princess Bride
    The Wild Bunch
    This is Spinal Tap
    Unforgiven
    Glengarry Glen Ross
    Lawrence Of Arabia
    Raging Bull
    The Departed
    Fargo
    Bonnie & Clyde
    Chinatown
    Inception
    The Elephant Man
    The Lion King
    A Few Good Men
    Fight Club
    Taxi Driver
    The Deer Hunter
    The Ten Commandments
    GoodFellas
    Groundhog Day
    Planet of the Apes
    Platoon
    The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover
    The Day The Earth Stood Still
    The Godfather II
    The Green Mile
    Black Swan
    Brazil
    Steel Magnolias
    When Harry Met Sally


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Old 01-09-2015, 01:31 AM
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These are the films in the 1-vote section (films which received only 1 vote during the Master List compilation), and the kind of support they have garnered during subsequent discussions-


Strong Support:

A CHRISTMAS CAROL (+2)
A Fistful of Dollars (+2)
Argo (+2)
Ben Hur (+2)
Braveheart (+2)
City Lights (+2)
Dances With Wolves (1990) (+2)
Django Unchained (+2)
Double Indemnity (1944) (+2)
Duck Soup (+2)
Forrest Gump (+2)
Gandhi (+2)
Gettysburg (+2)
Mystic River (+2)
O Brother, Where Art Thou? (+2)
RAN (+2)
Rear Window (+2)
The Blind Side (+2)
The Fountain (2006) (+2)
The Karate Kid (+2)
The Third Man (1949) (+2)
Wild Strawberries (1957) (+2)


Nominal Support:

9#11 (+1)
Amadeus (1984) (+1)
ANDREI RUBLEV (+1)
Annie Hall (+1)
Bottle Rocket (+1)
Breaking The Waves (1996) (+1)
Broadcast News (+1)
Casino (+1)
Come and See (1985) (+1)
Cool Hand Luke (+1)
Crash (+1)
Dancer In The Dark (2000) (+1)
Drowning By Numbers (1988) (+1)
Dune (1984) (+1)
Dumbo (+1)
Erin Brockovich (+1)
Fitzcarraldo (1982) (+1)
FOR A FEW DOLLARS MORE (+1)
Glory (+1)
Harold and Maude (+1)
Legend (+1)
M.A.S.H. (+1)
Modern Times (+1)
Music Man (+1)
Nightmare Alley (1947) (+1)
On Golden Pond (+1)
Paths of Glory (+1)
Princess Mononoke [1997] (+1)
Scum (1977) (+1)
Singing in the Rain (+1)
Sunset Boulevard (1950) (+1)
The African Queen (+1)
The Bicycle Thief (1948) (+1)
The Grapes of Wrath (+1)
THE LONGEST DAY (+1)
The Music Room (1958) (+1)
The Neverending Story (+1)
The Piano Teacher (2001) (+1)
The Sting (+1)
Tron [1982] (+1)
Yellow Submarine (+1)


Divided Opinions:

The Fifth Element [1997] (+2) (-1)
Gran Torino (+2) (-1)
Kill Bill [2003] (+2) (-1)
Mulholland Drive (2001) (+2) (-1)
Philadelphia (1993) (+2) (-1)

Blazing Saddles (+2) (-2)
The Crow (+2) (-2)
E.T. The Extra Terrestrial (+2) (-2)

Amelie (2001) (+1) (-1)
Avatar (-1) (+1)
The Adventures Of Baron Munchausen (1988) (+1) (-1)
Old Yeller (1957) (+1) (-1)
Road To Perdition (+1) (-1)
The Social Network (+1) (-1)
Time Bandits (1981) (+1) (-1)
Wall-E (+1) (-1)
Willow (1988) (+1) (-1)

Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey (-2) (+1)


No Opinion:

8½ (1963)
Back to the Future Part II
CROSS OF IRON
DAMNATION
Duck You Sucker
Enemy At The Gates
Iron Will
Labyrinth
LAURA
NORTH TO ALASKA
Once
PAPILLION
Punch Drunk Love
Raising Arizona
Romeo & Juliet [1996]
SATANTANGO
Spartacus
StreetBallers
Superman
THE APARTMENT
The Avengers
The Boondock Saints
THE COMANCHEROS
The Descendents
THE GETAWAY (Sam Peckinpah)
THE GREAT ESCAPE
The Great Race
The Hunt For Red October [1990]
The Hurt Locker
The Naked Civil Servant (1975)
THE PIANIST
The Quiet Man (John Ford film)
THE SONS OF KATIE ELDER
The X-Men
Thunderheart (1992)
Walk The Line
Warrior
We Were Soldiers


Negated:

A HARD DAY'S NIGHT (-1)
Bugsy Malone (1976) (-1)
Coach Carter (-1)
Dazed and Confused (-1)
Dear John (-1)
Escape From New York (-1)
Friday (-1)
HELP! (-1)
La Bamba (1987) (-1)
Rushmore (-1)
Sleeping Beauty (-1)
The Magnificent Seven [1960] (-1)
The Patriot (-1)
Tombstone [1993] (-1)
Toy Story (-1)
Trainspotting (-1)


Strongly Negated:

12 Rounds (-2)
21 Jump Street (-2)
Alice in Wonderland (2010) (-2)
I, Robot (-2)
Live Free or Die Hard [2007] (-2)
Mac and Devin go to High School (-2)
The Day After Tomorrow (-2)
The Goonies (1985) (-2)
Up (2009) (-2)

The Naked Gun [1988] (-3)
Pirates of the Caribbean: At Worlds End(2007) (-3)
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Mans Chest (2006) (-3)
Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides (2011) (-3)
Star Trek (2009) (-3)
Star Trek Into Darkness (-3)
Super Troopers (-3)



I expect to find at least 20-25 more from this section.

To make things a bit easier, I propose to move all 1-vote films with +2 beside them into the final 100 list. What say?


(Continued...)

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Old 01-09-2015, 01:36 AM
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These are the films which have been tossed into the backburner because of strong negations during initial discussions. Number beside them indicates initial votes that they had garnered during the Master List compilation.
  • Once Upon a Time in the West - 4
    The Matrix - 4
    Back To The Future - 3
    Die Hard - 3
    Edward Scissorhands - 3
    Pulp Fiction - 3
    The Terminator - 3
    Titanic - 3
    Twelve Monkeys - 3
    Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind - 2
    Gravity - 2
    Independence Day - 2
    Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl - 2
    Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan - 2

I had initially kept this batch for a final debate to fill any remaining spots in the final 100, after we had rummaged through the 1-vote films. But let's have a discussion on all of them, in case any of them makes a case for itself over and above the 1-vote films.
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Old 01-09-2015, 05:08 PM
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I don't think we should over-empower a negative post.

Including a film with 1 vote (say "Scum"), and eliminating a film with 4 votes (say "The Matrix") doesn't make much sense.

Plus, I remember some were posts like "ya, I don't think that's one of the best". Doesn't mean they think that the film with 4 votes is worse than the one with 1 vote.


Just looking at these backburner films: (don't care) means not negging the film, I just don't care about it.

The Matrix - 4 (I think it's definitely one of the best films all-time)
Edward Scissorhands - 3 (I think it's definitely one of the best films all-time)
Pulp Fiction - 3 (I think it's definitely one of the 100 best films all-time)

Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind - 2 (very good film)
Twelve Monkeys - 3 (good film)
Die Hard - 3 (good film)
The Terminator - 3 (good film)
Titanic - 3 (good film)
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan - 2 (good film, don't care)
Once Upon a Time in the West - 4 (don't care)
Back To The Future - 3 (don't care)
Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl - 2 (This is the original, entertaining, don't care)
Gravity - 2 (don't care)
Independence Day - 2 (entertaining, don't care)
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