Cannibal Holocaust: Again.

[The Flayed One]

I've talked with a few of you before about Cannibal Holocaust and the fact that a thread about it pops up here once a month. It seemed like the ultimate forbidden movie to me when I first started really collecting horror & studying the genre. Of course, after hanging out with the horror crowd for years, we all know it, we've all seen it. It definately doesn't hold the mistique, if you will, that I (and possibly "we") thought it did.

Bear with me here, I'm not quite sure where this is going yet.

I found myself ordering it last night. I've already seen it once, and I'm pretty sure that once I get it I'll watch it once more and then not touch it for years. Maybe even never watch it again. So the question I put to myself is: why? Why did I just spend around $16 for a movie I KNOW I will probably rarely, if ever, watch. I could have ordered brilliant films with that money. Eyes Without A Face, M, the list could go on forever. I could have spent it on a horror comedy that would get several views a year; the kind that you pop in for background noise when your mates come over for brews.

Remembering the one time I viewed it, I recall it being a decent film. Well put together with good FX. I can't, however, see (unless your trying to achieve a certain image) anyone claiming this to be a film that they love watching all of the time.

I don't even know that I'd call it essential to any horror collection. For some strange reason, I just felt like I needed to have it.

I guess what I'm asking for is a discussion on two things:
1.) Aside from the gore/exploitation/infamy factor, how do you honestly feel about Cannibal Holocaust as a movie?

2.) Do you add movies to your collection just because you feel they need to be there, or do you strictly just buy movies you know you'll view several times?

[The_Return]

1) Never seen it and have no interest in doing so.

2) Ive been known to buy DVDs just because I feel I should have them. Case in point, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Incredible movie, but I havent even taken it out of the case since buying it.

[PR3SSUR3]

1] Cannibal Holocaust is a film very much more talked about than actually seen, particularly by (typically male) teenagers and those over 30 who might remember the controversy when the film was banned all over the world upon release. To the younger (potential) spectator, it can be the exciting film ‘where real people die on camera’. Those more mature might be less convinced, but nonetheless remain wary of the film until they have actually seen it, and been reassured.

Fan discourse seriously affects the reception – and perception – of Cannibal Holocaust. Starting at the beginning, that this is ‘A Ruggero Deodato’ picture could excite exploitation fans familiar with his Last Cannibal World made two years earlier – which was a new and aggressive ‘jungle adventure’ featuring cannibalism and animal butchery. This was made in response to an earlier ‘native savage’ epic (Deep River Savages), and really started the bandwagon rolling as different directors tried to out-gross each other in this (primarily Italian) sub-genre. So while the average cinema customer would not be seen dead at any of these films because of their notoriously violent and worthless reputation, they were a huge hit on the grindhouse circuit to jaded audiences and those seeking wilder entertainment.

Early reviews of Cannibal Holocaust were united in condemnation, mostly concentrating on the animal cruelty scenes. They also helped propagate the myth that the human deaths might not be special effects, sometimes referring to the real execution footage and blurring the line of reality between those shot dead and those eaten. To curious viewers with stronger stomachs this could be irresistible, and make the film a ‘must see’ – perhaps if only to satisfy oneself that this is not a real murder (or ‘snuff’) film and come out of it feeling more informed than the average person and equipped to pontificate about it. This attitude seems common in many of those who have seen the film, particularly ‘film buffs’ desperate to impress about such controversial (and hard to find, at least uncut) work. ‘Serious’ reviewers were quick to denounce the film as ‘phoney’ – people do not die after all – and hypocritical, as in true Italian Mondo tradition the film purports to condemn what it takes great voyeuristic delight in displaying. This did not affect public curiosity, and conversely boosted ticket sales as people still wanted to find out what all the fuss was about. The film reaches out to the darker, voyeuristic natures buried within us all – and people always want to investigate controversy and scandal if only to judge it for themselves.

Unlike other films, with the passing of time Cannibal Holocaust has lost none of its ferocious power. The sub-genre of cannibal movies has long since died out (unlikely many directors would be able to include the requisite animal slaughter with today’s tighter laws against cruelty), but new generations of horror and exploitation fans keep it very much alive and DVD reissues make such films more widely available. Decades of review and analysis reveal it to be still widely condemned because of its approach to animals and depicted atrocities, but it has now also been accepted as a unique and very intelligent film with a lot more technical achievement (its manipulative ‘fake documentary’ style is quite significant in these times of ‘reality’ TV) and message (interpreted as pure hypocrisy by most, as bravely constructive by others) than previously considered – the message is tackled in the next section. Once the furore over the film’s initial release had calmed down, critics were able to look beneath the viscera and wayward claims of ‘snuff’ to discover a cleverly shot and edited film (how difficult is it for professional cinematographers to ‘dumb down’ their skills in such a way to convince the audience the verite footage might be ‘real’… while still applying just the correct amount of style to make the trick watchable?), well acted (save for some poor dubbing) and – at the time – totally original in its style and execution.

Whether they admire or dislike the film, commentators of Cannibal Holocaust have one thing in common – they generally agree it is a hypocritical – even racist – piece of work, summed up in its using the final thoughts of the professor who wonders ‘who the real cannibals are?’ as justification to display all the hardcore carnage that has gone before. There is a moral to the story – that it is not civilised man’s right to plunder the world of the unknown – but so brutally and apparently contemptuously is it attempted to be forced home the point is easily lost. Pure exploitation is the charge, and since the film is a figurehead of the whole 70s/80s European sleaze and violence trend few have bothered to try and view it as anything more than questionable titillation, or a very guilty pleasure. The director it would seem wanted to shock us with graphic depictions of one of the greatest taboos, spice it up with real animal and human deaths and dubiously try and explain it all away with a glib comment right at the very end. However, there is another theory that many have missed the point and interpreted Deodato’s film incorrectly.

The first narrative of Cannibal Holocaust is the professor’s mission to investigate the missing documentary crew. He treats the natives with dignity and respect, and eventually earns both acceptance and the telltale film cans they are holding as a result – sealing the agreement with his gift of a tape recorder the natives have become instantly fascinated with. This ‘proper’ narrative displays evidence that the best way of maintaining the virility of the indigenous social structure is to allow periodic redistribution of structural forces. The ‘proper’ film clears up the huge mess left by the documentary crew in the ‘improper’ film – the significance made all the greater if we consider the explicit and voyeuristic pleasure in cruelty and barbarism that has gone before. New social relations are restored from their collapse, as the morally sanctioned gift cycle upholds the social cycle.

The second narrative documents the collapse of the exchange system, the most basic and primitive ritual of civilisation. Even amongst themselves the crew have no respect for public and private boundaries, filming themselves emerging naked from a shower, vomiting and defecating – but more obvious is their exercise in destroying the system of giving and taking, with their raping and pillaging of the native tribe. The ‘improper’ film then warns us of the consequences of this social breakdown, and the selfish and aggressive system of taking and taking back.

So, rather than being about chaos and destruction, his film is about restoration and redistribution. This has been lost on people distracted by the alleged voyeurism/racist hypocrisy claims, and no doubt because of the narrative structure which displays the restorative/‘proper’ story before the destructive/’improper’ film, leaving a nasty taste when the film finishes instead of a positive note. Also, a final statement just before the end credits reveals we are watching this film because it was smuggled out of the TV studio after the professor ordered the footage to be burned – the employee responsible joining in the chaos.

Exposed as not quite the studied hypocrisy it is widely thought to be, we should consider another cause of such widespread condemnation. The earlier project from the documentary crew is genuine third-world atrocity footage – executions of men tied to trees and shot – and while undeniably real, slips by almost unnoticed between the two main narratives. It is described as a ‘set up’, which does not suggest the footage is ‘acted’ with special effects but rather that the crew have paid to have such an event arranged for their cameras.

This short clip puts the elaborately amateurish cannibal ‘documentary’ into perspective, and breaks the taboos the acted tale merely pretends to – that of voyeurism of the moment of death. The viewer, having observed the execution footage, knows somehow it is real – yet has not been prompted to release any emotion or outrage about it since it is presented low-key and undramatically. Once the acted destruction and cannibal scenes begin to unfold in the ‘improper’ narrative, the shock, reprehension even anger generated from viewing the executions is unleashed. The melodramatic faked killings must carry the can for the viewer briefly witnessing real death.

Therefore in conclusion, Cannibal Holocaust reveals another flip side to its charges of exploitation and voyeuristic nature. The rules we unconsciously desire to break are broken without our knowledge in the fleeting but troubling experience of the execution footage, but little attention is drawn to that. The cinematic intrusion toyed with in the cannibal sequences is endorsed and consolidated by our watching the real death footage, as it sanctions the film’s narrative consequence and is a crucial glimpse of the nightmare reality Cannibal Holocaust disguises itself as. Deodato’s film provokes morbid curiosity and subsequent guilt about the private moment of death – very cleverly – with these interesting results. Very few women seem to want to experience this film. Perhaps it is down to the truthful rumours of genuine animal slaughter, or the untrue tales of human murder (in the cannibalistic sense at least), which both require the stoic, even macho defences of the male viewer who makes up the higher percentage of horror/exploitation fanatics. However, examining the more rational and considered ways the film should be interpreted, it is interesting that such an intelligent and provocative piece of work remains largely hidden behind myth and hysteria.

2] no.

[urgeok]

isnt it true that people got killed in that movie ?

:D

[The Flayed One]

Originally Posted by urgeok

isnt it true that people got killed in that movie ?

:D

You unbelievable bastard!:p

[knife_fight]

Originally Posted by PR3SSUR3

1] I feel it is an excellent movie, if you can look past the outrage and animal atrocities.

2] no.

what the hell? why did you change your post? that shit was great and I thoroughly enjoyed that someone was actually discussing a horror film from a genuine, intellectual, standpoint. to me, this forum has gone downhill over the last couple years because people quit discussing movies in a serious manner.

although for most of us, we've read and heard and said everything that there is to say about almost every movie, so the discussion strays towards other things. but I thought your original post was great (the whole time I was thinking, "maybe he did a paper on this" b/c it seemed so well thought out and planned. did you work from an outline?).

[_____V_____]

1) I havent seen that movie yet, and I dont intend to either.

2) No. Strictly buying those which have entertained me and which I love to see again and again. Although it becomes more and more difficult as one's collection grows, but I m trying to keep up.

[Popsicle Cannibal]

I certainly know what you mean when talk about the mystery surrounding the movie. I've never seen it, but the hype makes me curious, even though it doesn't really sound like a movie I'd be into.

[PR3SSUR3]

what the hell? why did you change your post? that shit was great and I thoroughly enjoyed that someone was actually discussing a horror film from a genuine, intellectual, standpoint. to me, this forum has gone downhill over the last couple years because people quit discussing movies in a serious manner.

although for most of us, we've read and heard and said everything that there is to say about almost every movie, so the discussion strays towards other things. but I thought your original post was great (the whole time I was thinking, "maybe he did a paper on this" b/c it seemed so well thought out and planned. did you work from an outline?).

Sorry, I withdrew it because there were one or two things needed updating (yes this is from a past essay of mine) - i put it back this morning.

[Spec7ral]

you are a very talented writer pressure. your ideas and points are well presented and come across beautifuly. it definetly changed the way i will look at that movie forever. good show.

1) I enjoyed this flick. I bought it because of the controversy/banned/OMFGWTF air of mystique it is billed with. I thought it was well made and that alot of movies and tv since owe alot to it, due to its use of the mockumentary, if you can call it that. I have only watched it once thus far, but I know i will watch it again, even if its just to watch it with someone who hasnt seen it and to see their reaction to it. It's like when you take something out of the fridge that is "off" and you smell it. You're like "ew yuck, hey dude smell this" and the other person usually will. But beyond the sort of gross out factor (which honestly isnt really that high its just presented well) it is a well made movie. I am glad to have it in my collecto.

2) Yes. Anything that is a numbered copy i am a sucker for. I feel like if i can be like "dude there are only 50 of these fuckers in the WORLD MAN!!!" that makes my collecto that much better. I know it really doesnt mean jack shit, but we all have our little quirks.

Originally Posted by PR3SSUR3

1] Very few women seem to want to experience this film. Perhaps it is down to the truthful rumours of genuine animal slaughter, or the untrue tales of human murder (in the cannibalistic sense at least),

I think that when you open the box and there is a picture of a chick with a giant log rammed in one orifice and out another that's when any girl who thought it was just gonna be another movie probly gets a little wary, I'm pretty sure that's what happened with my GF. She could laff at the rapes in ISOYG but she couldnt in CH. Plus the tortoise shit grossed her out, I guess just cause its real. I think, in all honesty and not to be sexist (no i don't think using the word chick makes me sexist to begin with), that there's just not a big group of chix who dig exploitation films. Theres alot of female horror fans, to be sure, but exploitation seems to be a cup of tea reserved mostly for dudes, at least in my experience.

PS the soundtrack roxx