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Old 08-07-2017, 06:15 AM
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I wasn't aware it was going to be a two parts movie. Great.
Yeah, they are doing it the same way as the mini series. It will be the losers as kids in the first movie and their return as adults in the second movie. And the director is now in talks to do Pet Cemetery if this goes well.
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Old 08-09-2017, 12:04 PM
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Not even a minute into chapter 2:

"He was just a queer."

Oh this is going to be a fun chapter.

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Yeah, IT likes people to know. IT ripped his arm off and left him to die. IT doesn't actually feed on people really. You'll find out more. In the movie he was yanked into the sewer and gone. I think this is more brutal, also I saw it in my mind as he wouldn't really fit into the sewer so IT just yanked until IT got some.

I just finished IT again today. Im sad faced that its over.
Either way they gave us way too much time on Gorgie. I felt sad when he died.

...But the gore was refreshing considering how vanilla the movie was.
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Old 08-12-2017, 08:11 PM
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Monologues cause I have nothing else better to do than waste your time:

Lordy even for just listening to someone else read the book it's so BORING at times. Like is it entirely necessary to tell us EVERYTHING in Eddy's medicine cabinet?? I thought I was going to grow old and die before we got to the end of the list!

I did however enjoy Ben's introduction in the book MUCH better than in the (original) movie. The concern expressed from the bartender really adds to the fear you're supposed to feel for this character and realize just how horrified he is to go home again. Not like in the movie where he was drunk with some broad who got turned on by hearing about his little boy fat rolls.
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Old 08-14-2017, 05:46 AM
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Monologues cause I have nothing else better to do than waste your time:

Lordy even for just listening to someone else read the book it's so BORING at times. Like is it entirely necessary to tell us EVERYTHING in Eddy's medicine cabinet?? I thought I was going to grow old and die before we got to the end of the list!

I did however enjoy Ben's introduction in the book MUCH better than in the (original) movie. The concern expressed from the bartender really adds to the fear you're supposed to feel for this character and realize just how horrified he is to go home again. Not like in the movie where he was drunk with some broad who got turned on by hearing about his little boy fat rolls.
LOL! Stephen King has always been to descriptive. Its a fault. It would be the reason my oldest son gave up on The Gunslinger two chapters in. He was like "When is something going to happen, I've already heard too much about the desert." You just gotta allow it to really build an image in your head and enjoy it. His level of description is the reason he almost never get a good film adaptation. Its hard to adapt something that the King has already built such a vivid image of in peoples minds.
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I wouldn't say a fault per-say. It's probably just harder for someone with ADD to focus on the same thing for so long. It's likely a good thing to be so descriptive, especially when adapting to a movie. The whole thing is written out RIGHT THERE, there's no excuse for getting everything so wrong! Unlike in a book where you have to take a lot of time to read all the details, movies have the benefit of showing everything in one frame. You experience the environment as the characters interact with it, saving time that King dedicates so much of in written words. The book is certainly giving me some more respect for King because of that.
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I wouldn't say a fault per-say. It's probably just harder for someone with ADD to focus on the same thing for so long. It's likely a good thing to be so descriptive, especially when adapting to a movie. The whole thing is written out RIGHT THERE, there's no excuse for getting everything so wrong! Unlike in a book where you have to take a lot of time to read all the details, movies have the benefit of showing everything in one frame. You experience the environment as the characters interact with it, saving time that King dedicates so much of in written words. The book is certainly giving me some more respect for King because of that.
Right, but because of how descriptive it is, there is little you can do to develop it. In other words, movies that are less descriptive leave the film maker the ability to adapt it in a way that suites more people. With King, we have an exact vision of what happened in the book and if it varies even slightly the die hards will point it out. If it isnt adapted exactly it becomes a point of frustration. The trouble is with direct adaptations, there really isnt enough material. Think about this, you spent twenty minutes listening to the description of what was in Eddies medicine cabinet, but in a movie, that is literally a 20 second scene. If you compress all of those details in scenes into what they actually mean on screen, you end up with a very short movie. These scenes need to be drug out, or there needs to be some addition in order to stretch it to movie length. See what Im saying. Think Richie at the bar before he leaves for Maine as an adult. The deal with snorting to lime juice, what is damn near a chapter, would play out on screen in 5 minutes.
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LOL! The last few posts have been a very amusing read!
King is long winded and descriptive beyond what is needed and it drives me crazy sometimes. I unashamedly admit to just scanning a paragraph or two when it's obvious he's going to spend 590 words describing a shoe, or the type of glue someone used to seal their asshole shut. That said, what remains after that is simply exceptional. I can handle the babbling on, because the rest pays off so well.

I'm halfway through the hard cover and I just picked up the audio book, which I'm planning to listen to about a week after I finish the novel.

My thoughts on this re-read...

I'm happily recalling how much I loved The Losers Club when I first read this book years ago. As these vulnerable, sweet and lonely kids all band together I feel more and more dread at the Evil they are coming up against, and will continue to encounter. I hate seeing them in peril but I celebrate every one of their victories.
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Right, but because of how descriptive it is, there is little you can do to develop it. In other words, movies that are less descriptive leave the film maker the ability to adapt it in a way that suites more people. With King, we have an exact vision of what happened in the book and if it varies even slightly the die hards will point it out. If it isnt adapted exactly it becomes a point of frustration. The trouble is with direct adaptations, there really isnt enough material. Think about this, you spent twenty minutes listening to the description of what was in Eddies medicine cabinet, but in a movie, that is literally a 20 second scene. If you compress all of those details in scenes into what they actually mean on screen, you end up with a very short movie. These scenes need to be drug out, or there needs to be some addition in order to stretch it to movie length. See what Im saying. Think Richie at the bar before he leaves for Maine as an adult. The deal with snorting to lime juice, what is damn near a chapter, would play out on screen in 5 minutes.
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LOL! The last few posts have been a very amusing read!
King is long winded and descriptive beyond what is needed and it drives me crazy sometimes. I unashamedly admit to just scanning a paragraph or two when it's obvious he's going to spend 590 words describing a shoe, or the type of glue someone used to seal their asshole shut. That said, what remains after that is simply exceptional. I can handle the babbling on, because the rest pays off so well.
Either way I'm anxious to see how the new movie will adapt all these descriptive scenes. As is it's hard to motivate myself to just continue on with the story when I know I'm not even to the flashbacks yet. So many more medicine cabinets to be described, someone send help.
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Old 08-31-2017, 08:55 AM
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Hey forum friends!

Due to the fact that I'm totally geeking out over the September release of the film, I'm about to embark on a re-read of the novel, IT.

I was wondering if anyone else is going to revisit it, or read it for the first time, prior to seeing the film. Any one out there going to check out the source material before hitting the cinema?

Maybe we can have an ultra Horror nerd book group discussion as we progress.
Just finished it for the first time. My biggest issue with the book is the rough pacing. I honestly just skimmed a few sections because..well for example when Stans wife discovers him in the beginning. That part was so drawn out and the descriptions were unnecessary. The gang bang, the diary, the town at the end were some other parts that weren't well done.

That being said I loved the "coming of age" tale of the losers club. Those kids were a cool group. I also would have enjoyed more perspective from Pennywise as well. Now I gotta re-watch It in prep for the redo.

EDIT- looks like Im not alone in the long winded descriptions :)
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Just finished it for the first time. My biggest issue with the book is the rough pacing. I honestly just skimmed a few sections because..well for example when Stans wife discovers him in the beginning. That part was so drawn out and the descriptions were unnecessary. The gang bang, the diary, the town at the end were some other parts that weren't well done.

That being said I loved the "coming of age" tale of the losers club. Those kids were a cool group. I also would have enjoyed more perspective from Pennywise as well. Now I gotta re-watch It in prep for the redo.

EDIT- looks like Im not alone in the long winded descriptions :)
His long winded descriptions are part of his writing, it happens in most everything he writes. I like it. I love getting to see exactly what King wants us to see in his head.
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