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Old 08-17-2006, 11:30 AM
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What is Goth?

Maybe I have misinterpreted what Goth was supposed to mean. I was always under the impression that the title of 'Goth' was reserved for an intelligent, intellectual, a person with a strong literary background who could carry on an intelligent conversation. A person who dressed with class, maybe dark colors, but more a dark chic.
Now I see 'Goth' being defined as a bunch of rebellious punks who don't really know anything about much of anything. H.P. who? Bella what? Rather than speaking intelligently they spout vulgarity and pretend that no one understands them and they are really dark complex people, when in fact they are just whiney teenagers like all the others. I see Gothic style being used as an excuse to dress like a slut. What happened to class?
Does anyone else feel this way?
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Old 08-17-2006, 12:37 PM
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It grew into a fad. "Goth" style became the McDonald's of teenage rebellion.
You want to bug your parents? Paint your nails black and listen to NIN.
That's the way it is out here, anyway. And I would like to state again that I am not encompassing ALL people who dress like this in my statements.
Only most of them.;)
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Old 08-17-2006, 12:54 PM
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apparently goth isnt anything to do with the people who dress goth, go to goth clubs or listen primarily to goth music.




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it seems to me that there are 3 types of 'goths'

1) pop culture goths .. they like the 'look' and the music (for whatever fucking reason) but they arent contemplating the hopelessness/helplessness of life 24/7 and although they think on the surface it would be cool to be a vampire - they have no real desire to be one.

2) the 'classic' goth. (various degress of commitment) they want to think they are vampires. they think death = beauty etc .. that whole, "poor little dark haired girl with a dead black rose woe is me the world is pain i should just die" thing.
Sorry kids - but the music is the silliest shit i've ever heard ... so overblown and dramatic .. subtle as a flying mallet.

3) faux goths.. play goths who like to dye their hair black, put on black lipstick, and then run around saying 'look at me, i'm a goth'

we've had this long running discussion in the general forum before ... some people get upset, some get defensive .. (especially in a horror forum which attracts 'goths' like moths to a flame) and all i can say is that if it looks like a rose, smells like a rose, feels like a rose ... its probably a rose.

(sorry - black rose)


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mostly its a way to get noticed and enjoy the thrill of other (people looking at them and saying/thinking 'oh look at the weirdos' which is like gold to these guys.

i'll have to admit - i mostly laugh.


that being said - some people can pull it off - the look .. . but the lifestyle - please ...

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Old 08-17-2006, 01:06 PM
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fake goth chicks put out like there's no tomorrow, real goth chicks are too mopey and depressed to put out at all
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Old 08-17-2006, 01:20 PM
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Re: What is Goth?

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I was always under the impression that the title of 'Goth' was reserved for an intelligent, intellectual, a person with a strong literary background who could carry on an intelligent conversation.
What you described is someone who doesn't need to hang a label on him/herself.

Labels are for weak-willed lemmings. You don't need 'em Demeter.
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Old 08-17-2006, 01:29 PM
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Re: What is Goth?

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I was always under the impression that the title of 'Goth' was reserved for an intelligent, intellectual, a person with a strong literary background who could carry on an intelligent conversation.
You're thinking of Asian people
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Old 08-17-2006, 01:45 PM
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Old 08-17-2006, 01:46 PM
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Old 08-17-2006, 04:34 PM
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Re: Re: What is Goth?

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What you described is someone who doesn't need to hang a label on him/herself.

Labels are for weak-willed lemmings. You don't need 'em Demeter.

how do you feel about the people who label themselves ?
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Old 08-17-2006, 04:47 PM
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Goth , not goth, how cares. Personaly I hate it when people call me 'goth'. Yes, I dress mostly in black and like Sisters Of Mercy and Christian Death. Big deal, I'm much more then the clothes I wear and the music I listen to. Labels are terrible because the just pigeonhole you into a certain style or such, and everyone thinks they know all about you because of that label.
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