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All I know is we're number one in guns per capita and not even in the top 100 of overall homicides per capita.
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Again- not one person here has said we should ban all firearms. Why do you keep coming back to that? It's just rhetoric, not meaningful dialogue.
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Also, it's ridiculous that events like this are caused by so many issues but gun nuts end up co-opting tragedies to rage about their paranoia that the liberals are going to take away their guns. THAT is political. Last edited by Atraxi; 12-14-2012 at 10:18 PM. |
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I don't see this thread ending well so I'm bowing out now before it becomes a complete shit show.
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You talk about legitimate dialogue without stating your real position. It's akin to asking somebody "Why?". So Atraxi... Neverending: What to do you guys want to see? Where do you want to see gun control go to and how far of a reach should it have? Don't come at me about meaningful dialogue when you haven't even told me where you stand. Also, Atraxi, I don't assume anything about the way people look at events like this. I'm just curious as to why people gloss over events like the Houla Massacre or the Utoya Massacre. How many people have to die before you care? Buckle up, this is just friendly discussion (except maybe for Atraxi, he seems angry), wait until our divided Congressmen try to justify their inflated paychecks by arguing over this.
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I don't know the cure for violence in our society. Our country as a whole not only adores guns, they worship them. They are at the very core of our national psyche. At our founding, and for a long time afterward, guns were a necessity. They were needed not only for defense, but for livelihood as well. If you didn't have a gun, you were a non-entity.
The need for guns has largely disappeared, but we still revere them. It's an emotional issue for gun owners. It's such a complex issue I don't think it can be summed up in a few posts on a message board. Personally, I don't think people need guns, and I don't think people should own them. They're just not nice. Their only purpose is to harm. On the other hand, I'm paranoid enough that the idea of a a society where the only people who own guns are the police and the government, frightens me. That's the idea behind the second amendment. I think less people should own guns. I think guns should be harder to get. I think they should be tracked better. That's as specific as I'm willing to get. |
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And doesn't this seem to be the case in the majority of spree killings?
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Gun control would only be the first step to preventing this kind of tragedy.
But than again why make it harder for them when they can always get a knife or make a bomb...
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