Did ‘Jaws’ and ‘Star Wars’ really ruin Hollywood?

[newb]

Originally Posted by neverending

I work in movie market research, and let me tell you- the studios would LOVE it if every film was released in 3-D. They're going to push it as far as they can for as long as they can. They have us recently polling people about what types of films they'd like to see in 3-D- romance, comedy, drama... etc.

3-D PORN...now THAT could be interesting

WOAH....DUCK

[ManchestrMorgue]

I am in two minds about 3d. I can understand why Hollywood likes it - it draws people to cinemas, and allows remakes of remakes to be remade in 3d.

I imagine it stops films from being pirated in the cinema.

On the other hand, I don't think the technology is sophisticated enough to make it suitable for all films. It is great as a gimmick for action etc but it adds nothing to drama/comedy etc.

[neverending]

As far as the owners of the studios go- it's simply a numbers game. They have/are investing billions of dollars installing 3-D technology in theatres. The more films made in 3-D, the more product they have that they can charge inflated prices for, and the more they recoup on their investment. They have no concern over the quality of the product.

[Elvis_Christ]

Originally Posted by ManchestrMorgue

It is great as a gimmick for action etc but it adds nothing to drama/comedy etc.

A 3D comedy could be great. But I hear ya about it not working for a drama as it would take the seriousness out of it to a certain extent.

[Doc Faustus]

Avarice, cocaine, technofetishism and the mephtiic stagnant pond that is mainstream literature ruined Hollywood.

[wufongtan.]

Saying that art house or indie films can't get a good run, because of star wars or jaws is a load of shit. Its just people who are involved in those genres using successful movies as an excuse for their own failures. If art house movies or indie films were any good. People would go see them. If people went to see them they would make money, if they made money, people in hollywood would be falling over themselves to make them. The fact is. 99% of art house or indie films are complete crap. So no one goes to see them, so they don't make money, which is why people in hollywood don't want to make them.

[TheWickerFan]

Originally Posted by wufongtan.

Saying that art house or indie films can't get a good run, because of star wars or jaws is a load of shit. Its just people who are involved in those genres using successful movies as an excuse for their own failures. If art house movies or indie films were any good. People would go see them. If people went to see them they would make money, if they made money, people in hollywood would be falling over themselves to make them. The fact is. 99% of art house or indie films are complete crap. So no one goes to see them, so they don't make money, which is why people in hollywood don't want to make them.

I think art house and indie films can't get a good run because the majority of film goers seem content with the same old song and dance over and over and over and over again that Hollywood spews out, and they can't be bothered to seek out something different.

I'm not one of those people that says anyone who doesn't like this type of film is an ignorant fool (there are plenty I don't like) but 99% seems a pretty high percentage; I think you're being a little harsh.

[wufongtan.]

Originally Posted by TheWickerFan

I think art house and indie films can't get a good run because the majority of film goers seem content with the same old song and dance over and over and over and over again that Hollywood spews out, and they can't be bothered to seek out something different.

I'm not one of those people that says anyone who doesn't like this type of film is an ignorant fool (there are plenty I don't like) but 99% seems a pretty high percentage; I think you're being a little harsh.

Well. I don't know if film goers are so much content with a lot of the crap hollywood produces. I think they have no choice. True 99% is a little harsh. But i do feel the vast majority of indie films are crap. But some are very good.
I think the best indie films are the ones when the producers/directors, don't treat it as a indie film and just try and make the best film they can. Some indie films are so intent on being seen as a indie film that it loses it self. Same as a lot of big budget hollywood films. They are so interested in the big whiz bang special effects etc. That they forget the plot line.
I think both genres would be a great deal better off, if they took a leaf out of each other books.

[TheWickerFan]

Originally Posted by wufongtan.

Well. I don't know if film goers are so much content with a lot of the crap hollywood produces. I think they have no choice. True 99% is a little harsh. But i do feel the vast majority of indie films are crap. But some are very good.
I think the best indie films are the ones when the producers/directors, don't treat it as a indie film and just try and make the best film they can. Some indie films are so intent on being seen as a indie film that it loses it self. Same as a lot of big budget hollywood films. They are so interested in the big whiz bang special effects etc. That they forget the plot line.
I think both genres would be a great deal better off, if they took a leaf out of each other books.

Maybe "content" was the wrong word to use; maybe "resigned', "indifferent', or "apathetic" would be better.

When I see films like 'Grown Ups' and 'Knight And Day' in the top box office positions, that gives me very little faith that people are rejecting the offal and going for the gold.

[Posher778]

I don't see how Jaws ruined or affected anything negatively at all, actually.