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Old 09-29-2016, 08:11 PM
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What the shit?!?

 
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Anyone been following DC comics?

So you know how they did that terrible "New 52" thing?
For the better part this wrecked DC for me.

The Bat titles stayed solid. Most of the rest I just found myself unable to really connect with or care about.

So I wanted to know if anyone has been following DC.
From the pre-52, to the new-52, to the more recent (and thankfully towards being back on the right track) Rebirth titles.

Because I have an issue.
I want to talk about Superman...

It appears as though in the "New 52" titles were in a universe where everyone had forgotten each other/existing relationships/history etc, for the last 5 years - we find this out across the "Rebirth" titles.

So the new 52 Superman Died.
Actually dead. Disintegrated. Done.

Then this slightly older looking Superman appears to help the world out...or rather, he appeared briefly before the other one died.
One died. One stayed on.

So turns out this Superman is meant to be the pre-52 one?

He and Lois have been living with their son undercover under the name "White".
The pre-52 comics had them in the care of said character.
They do have different jobs - as their "new 52" counterparts were in their roles of investigative reporters, so this is/was to maintain cover.
They have memories of the fight with Doomsday that "killed" him, before he came back of course.

The rest of the "Rebirth" comics, it's been realised that somebody has played with time, memories, histories etc.
Whoever it is "Stole 5 years" from them - this was the explanation for the reversion seen in New 52, why nobody knew each other as well etc.

So...if I'm getting this right...

Part, or most, of the "previously-known-as-new-52-and-now-post-rebirth" universe is the characters that were meant to have been in the pre-52 universe.
Minus five years of history.

So, this raises some questions, if this is the case...

The "new 52" Superman, the dead one - who was he then?

The "pre 52" Superman, the one that's had none if HIS history taken away, but is living in this "new 52/rebirth" universe...whats the deal there?

Like, why would he stand seperate from all of this?
If he is the "original", what/who was the new one meant to have been?

Another thing is Batman - all of these titles largely maintained the pre-52 continuity in the first place...yet, neither he, nor any member of the Bat family (supposedly pretty smart and cluey people) ever acknowledged that something was up with all this.
Even though Batman is a member of the Justice League, and has interacted with, worked with them throughout the new 52 continuity.

There's been some weak link to something in the Watchmen universe.
Something about 3 Jokers.
Few other things.

But nothing adresses these issues.

I'm beginning to wonder if the "new 52" universe, leading into the "rebirth" universe actually exists...or have Superman and Batman been somehow Matrix'd into them.
I mean hell that would be one long, slow burn twist...but I'm wondering how else they plan to explain it.

In any event, the rebirth stuff has been great so far - it's just this lack of cohesion and explanation that's annoying me.
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