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cheebacheeba 04-09-2018 01:51 AM

HALLOWEEN ?Returns? 2018
 
So...are we looking forward to this?

Unlike a lot of people...I actually found most of the numbered Myers-related sequels past 2 pretty bland, in fact I barely got through them.
I found H20 refreshing (too easy).

I really REALLY loathed Resurrection, not only for how it pissed all over Laurie but the whole concept...reality tv? Busta Rhymes? Horrible cast, pacing, no atmosphere...in my mind gave Jason X a run for it's money.

So slate is wiped clean after the original film, and this much time has passed?
Carpenter states the way he's aiming is that it'll be the scariest installment, so that'll be a thing to see assuming he can pull it off.

I kind of like the idea here...time will tell if this will be considered by the fandom to be the "true" timeline contender, or not.

Apparently he'll have a "new" mask. What's the deal there?
I guess they'll have to get Shatner in again eh? Ha, current Shatner face.

So, who's going to see it?


Thoughts?

Bloof 04-09-2018 02:50 AM

Lol, current Shatner face. Yep, l plan to see it. Ive only ever seen the first 2 Halloween's.

Edit: also watched H20.

fudgetusk 04-09-2018 04:16 AM

What more is there to say about a guy in a mask killing folk? Maybe he should just open a book shop or something.

knife_fight 04-09-2018 02:33 PM

I will definitely see it, even if it's just to satisfy my own curiosity. I'll probably even go to the theater to see it, which I never do. Halloween is probably my favorite horror film ever, so I can't help myself, even though I've probably only watched the later installments once each. It's probably the only franchise that I have that sort of dedication to. I realized a long time ago that studios were exploiting fans with subpar sequels, reboots, etc. and I refuse to be a part of it.
That said, it took me years to watch the Zombie remakes because I refused to pay money to see them. I'm glad I saw them because they confirmed my opinion that they were bad.

DeadbeatAtDawn 06-08-2018 12:40 PM

Can't believe no one posted the Halloween 2018 trailer...::shocked:: It's been out since 10 am.

HOLY FUCK! ::love::




Sculpt 06-08-2018 05:52 PM

I'm intrigued.

Angra 06-08-2018 06:17 PM

How is Laurie still alive, I don’t get it?

The Villain 06-09-2018 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Angra (Post 1031522)
How is Laurie still alive, I don’t get it?

This movie ignores all the sequels and only connects with the first one

Angra 06-09-2018 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Villain (Post 1031526)
This movie ignores all the sequels and only connects with the first one

Or maybe Carpenter just pulls an Alien 4 out his ass.

Either way I’m not eager to see this one.

Sculpt 06-09-2018 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angra (Post 1031527)
Or maybe Carpenter just pulls an Alien 4 out his ass.

Either way I’m not eager to see this one.

Carpenter is only the exec producer. He approved the story, was a creative consultant, and may have had collective input in any rewrites. He doesn't direct. However, everything I read indicates he scored the film. Halloween was his best scoring, so I'll be very interested to hear what he does.

It's written by David Gordon Green, Jeff Fradley, and Danny McBride (star of Eastbound & Down). Should have some humor.

It's directed by "David Gordon Green: George Washington (2000), All the Real Girls (2003), and Snow Angels (2007), as well as the thriller Undertow (2004), all of which he wrote or co-wrote. In 2008, he transitioned into comedy, directing the films Pineapple Express (2008), Your Highness and The Sitter (both 2011). In 2013, he returned to his more dramatic roots with the independent films Prince Avalanche and Joe. Since then, he has directed the films Manglehorn (2014), Our Brand Is Crisis (2015), Stronger (2017)."

The Villain 06-10-2018 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angra (Post 1031527)
Or maybe Carpenter just pulls an Alien 4 out his ass.

Either way I’m not eager to see this one.

No really, they've stated that this one ignores all the sequels

DeadbeatAtDawn 06-10-2018 07:20 PM

I love that it takes place 40 years later after the first one. What a grand idea. If you look at his mask in the trailer, you can see the hole from the knitting needle stab and the 'scar' from the coat hanger. Excellent. Someone did their homework. ::love::

fudgetusk 06-12-2018 02:11 AM

The only way to improve the Halloween franchise is to give him a jetpack.

And Ninja throwing stars.

And a hat.

(actually after seeing the trailer I'm sold. And Nick Castle as Myers? yes!)

MichaelMyers 06-12-2018 04:56 PM

Looks awesome!

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...84&oe=5BB43943

Sculpt 06-12-2018 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelMyers (Post 1031569)

LOL good one.

Hey Michael - for Halloween II wiki reads
Quote:

The plot twist of Laurie being Michael's sister required a retcon of the timeline between Judith's murder and the events depicted in the first Halloween; while Michael Myers is said to have committed the crime fifteen years ago and to be twenty-one.
What are they talking about? what did they change from Halloween I?

ferretchucker 06-18-2018 11:26 AM

I'm jolly excited for it - the trailer captures the tone I want deliciously. Retcons do pain me, but I suppose I can see why it was necessary. Likewise, the lack of a subtitle makes plenty of sense from a marketing standpoint, but it does rather make the collection seem a bit odd.

Then again...H40 ::big grin::

NightOfTheLiving_Sam 08-18-2018 02:33 PM

Yes, I'm excited to see it. I love the original Halloween and I love John Carpenter. Can't wait till it comes out! ::cool::

DeadbeatAtDawn 09-05-2018 05:39 PM


Oro13 11-03-2018 08:35 PM

Minor Spoilers
 
I gotta say, I was psyched for this one. The trailers looked promising, the premise ( retconning everything after II ) intrigued me, I dig the hell out of Michael’s new look ( so much that I attempted to recreate it for Halloween this year ), and seeing Laurie Strode turned survivalist made me ::love::.
However, I was fooled once before. H2O promised to deliver similar things, and I find that flick to be one of the worst examples of the late 90s “ teen scream “ lame ass trend of putting just enough blood on screen and use of the word fuck, to earn the softest of R ratings you can get. Then came Resurrection... So I came into Halloween 2018 with cautious optimism.

I really liked it.

It’s not perfect, but I left satisfied overall and am happy with what was done here. Michael is handled extremely well, and we get the original Shape back in this film. No family ties, no cults or curses, and no bullshit backstories that humanize him to the point of being an antihero or sympathetic. He is pure evil, and he behaves as such. James Jude Courtney is perfect in the role and he makes Michael scary again. Yes, Nick Castle is in the film as Michael in one scene and he does the classic head tilt ( the scene in the trailer where Laurie sees Michael for the first time in the upstairs window is the scene ), and he also provided all of the iconic heavy breathing in the movie.

Laurie is also done more than her fair share of justice. Her character development and backstory are well written and make sense, on top of being delivered with gusto by a very invested Jamie Lee Curtis. When she finally confronts Michael, this film turns into the film H2O could only wish to be. She also manages to come across as both tragic and psychotic in her own right. She’s just as stuck in the endless loop of that night as Michael, and it’s become so all consuming and defining, she can’t even conceive of life any other way.

Unfortunately, I can’t say the same for the supporting cast.
Laurie’s daughter and granddaughter, which is how I’m going to refer to them as I can’t be arsed to remember their names, are underdeveloped and the overall narrative suffers from the lack of substance these subplots offer. While her granddaughter and her coffin stuffer friends get more screen time, they’re the same old vapid stereotypes we’ve come to expect from slasher flicks. Laurie’s daughter, on the other hand, has some interesting backstory and depth hinted at having grown up being trained to both fight and be prepared for Michael, until she was taken away from her mother. Her resentment and lamentation over her lost childhood and strained relationship with her mother, would make for some heart wrenching and interesting scenes... Only it’s never explored or fleshed out, so she may as well not be in the film. There’s also more than a few awkward moments of forced comedy that left me scratching my head and only served to jar me out of the groove other better sequences put me in. Though, I must admit, the little kid being babysat in this flick is hilarious.

The other big problem I have with this film, and I won’t spoil it, comes from a curveball thrown as the film proceeds into its third act. This is the polarizing moment that you either will or won’t recover from. It’s something that is hinted at, but still seems to come out of left field, and I’ve spoken to several others who said it ruined the movie. As for myself, I overcame it and enjoyed the rest of the film in spite of this confusing decision on the writer’s parts. The only other gripe I have, ironically enough, is the gore. Halloween didn’t become a body count flick until the sequels, and this was largely done because they couldn’t recapture the atmosphere and subtlety from the original. This being a retcon of these same subsequent entries, we had the chance for a triumphant return to more subtle and effective kills that carry the same impact, without feeling the need to hose down the audience with arterial spray. However, the kills in this are mostly messy affairs that suffer from the excessive gore, imo. The ones I found most effective, were the ones you see the aftermath of, or occur just out of view. The difference between hearing someone beat to death with a hammer and then seeing the aftermath, versus graphically watching a head get curbstomped into lasagna, is the difference between Halloween and Rob Zombie’s Giant Hobo Clone Takes Haddonfield 2: The Fuckening.

Overall, there’s more to like than hate here, and some really great sequences, tension, and a proper mix of new and nostalgia that make it worth the price of its flaws. I’d give the new Halloween an 8/10 and recommend you all check it out and judge for yourselves.

Sculpt 11-03-2018 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oro13 (Post 1034742)
I gotta say, I was psyched for this one. The trailers looked promising, the premise ( retconning everything after II ) intrigued me, I dig the hell out of Michael’s new look ( so much that I attempted to recreate it for Halloween this year ), and seeing Laurie Strode turned survivalist made me ::love::.
However, I was fooled once before. H2O promised to deliver similar things, and I find that flick to be one of the worst examples of the late 90s “ teen scream “ lame ass trend of putting just enough blood on screen and use of the word fuck, to earn the softest of R ratings you can get. Then came Resurrection... So I came into Halloween 2018 with cautious optimism.

I really liked it.

It’s not perfect, but I left satisfied overall and am happy with what was done here. Michael is handled extremely well, and we get the original Shape back in this film. No family ties, no cults or curses, and no bullshit backstories that humanize him to the point of being an antihero or sympathetic. He is pure evil, and he behaves as such. James Jude Courtney is perfect in the role and he makes Michael scary again. Yes, Nick Castle is in the film as Michael in one scene and he does the classic head tilt ( the scene in the trailer where Laurie sees Michael for the first time in the upstairs window is the scene ), and he also provided all of the iconic heavy breathing in the movie.

Laurie is also done more than her fair share of justice. Her character development and backstory are well written and make sense, on top of being delivered with gusto by a very invested Jamie Lee Curtis. When she finally confronts Michael, this film turns into the film H2O could only wish to be. She also manages to come across as both tragic and psychotic in her own right. She’s just as stuck in the endless loop of that night as Michael, and it’s become so all consuming and defining, she can’t even conceive of life any other way.

Unfortunately, I can’t say the same for the supporting cast.
Laurie’s daughter and granddaughter, which is how I’m going to refer to them as I can’t be arsed to remember their names, are underdeveloped and the overall narrative suffers from the lack of substance these subplots offer. While her granddaughter and her coffin stuffer friends get more screen time, they’re the same old vapid stereotypes we’ve come to expect from slasher flicks. Laurie’s daughter, on the other hand, has some interesting backstory and depth hinted at having grown up being trained to both fight and be prepared for Michael, until she was taken away from her mother. Her resentment and lamentation over her lost childhood and strained relationship with her mother, would make for some heart wrenching and interesting scenes... Only it’s never explored or fleshed out, so she may as well not be in the film. There’s also more than a few awkward moments of forced comedy that left me scratching my head and only served to jar me out of the groove other better sequences put me in. Though, I must admit, the little kid being babysat in this flick is hilarious.

The other big problem I have with this film, and I won’t spoil it, comes from a curveball thrown as the film proceeds into its third act. This is the polarizing moment that you either will or won’t recover from. It’s something that is hinted at, but still seems to come out of left field, and I’ve spoken to several others who said it ruined the movie. As for myself, I overcame it and enjoyed the rest of the film in spite of this confusing decision on the writer’s parts. The only other gripe I have, ironically enough, is the gore. Halloween didn’t become a body count flick until the sequels, and this was largely done because they couldn’t recapture the atmosphere and subtlety from the original. This being a retcon of these same subsequent entries, we had the chance for a triumphant return to more subtle and effective kills that carry the same impact, without feeling the need to hose down the audience with arterial spray. However, the kills in this are mostly messy affairs that suffer from the excessive gore, imo. The ones I found most effective, were the ones you see the aftermath of, or occur just out of view. The difference between hearing someone beat to death with a hammer and then seeing the aftermath, versus graphically watching a head get curbstomped into lasagna, is the difference between Halloween and Rob Zombie’s Giant Hobo Clone Takes Haddonfield 2: The Fuckening.

Overall, there’s more to like than hate here, and some really great sequences, tension, and a proper mix of new and nostalgia that make it worth the price of its flaws. I’d give the new Halloween an 8/10 and recommend you all check it out and judge for yourselves.

Good review. I'm looking forward to seeing it. I'll probably have to wait for streaming/DVD.


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