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bloodrayne
08-02-2004, 07:04 AM
MP Backs Family Of 'Video Game Murder Victim'

An MP today called for the Government to back any legal action taken by the family of Stefan Pakeerah over the video game blamed for the brutal murder of their son.

Keith Vaz wrote to the Home Secretary asking him to look at the link between computer games and violent crime following the horrific death of the 14-year-old.

The MP for Leicester East also called for retailers to follow the lead of Dixons and pull Manhunt from their shelves following the murder in a Leicester park.

Giselle Pakeerah, whose son was bludgeoned and stabbed to death by his 17-year-old friend, said she had not come to a decision over whether to sue the game’s manufacturers.

However, the grieving (IRRESPONSIBLE) mother welcomed the MP’s interest in her case, which has attracted international support after Warren Leblanc pleaded guilty to the murder last week.

Mr Vaz told PA News: “I have written to the Home Secretary asking him to look at the link between videos and crime as a matter of urgency.

“I have asked for additional research to be funded in part by the manufacturers themselves in order to see whether or not there is a link between these video games and crimes of violence.

“As regards this particular video game I am calling on other retailers to take the same action as Dixons has done.

“They have cleared this game from the shelves and I think it would be appropriate for others to do the same.

“The family have intimated they are going to sue Sony today so I am calling on the Government to give the family any help they need in their lawsuit.

“These transatlantic legal issues are very difficult. The aid of the British Government is going to be of immense help to them.

“I think this is a very important test case and therefore the Government should give any help they can.”

Mrs Pakeerah, 36, said: “I have not made any decision but I am quite touched by the support that I have had from Keith Vaz and others.

“It means a lot to me and it means a lot to Stefan’s memory as well.”

Stefan Pakeerah was lured to Stokes Wood Park by his older friend, who then beat him repeatedly with a claw hammer and stabbed him again and again.

Leblanc, of Braunstone Frith, Leicester, admitted murder at Leicester Crown Court last week, saying he initially planned to rob the younger boy.

The court heard Leblanc sneaked up behind the youngster before carrying out the brutal attack.

Stefan’s parents said outside court they believed he had been “obsessed” with the violent computer game Manhunt and the murder bore similarities with the game.

The object of the game sees the player earn points for killing people in as gruesome a manner as possible.

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Parents To Sue Makers Of Violent Game

LEGAL action is to be taken against the computer company behind a violent game blamed for inciting a teenager to murder his 14-year-old friend.

Giselle and Patrick Pakeerah, from Leicester, whose son Stefan was stabbed to death, have hired a lawyer to act against Rockstar Games, parent company of Edinburgh-based Rockstar North, which developed Manhunt, the 18-rated virtual-reality killing game.

Retailers such as Dixons, Game and Woolworths have now removed Manhunt from their shelves. Warren Leblanc, 17, who carried out the murder, was said to have been obsessed by the game, in which a man roams a grimy city slaughtering everyone in his path.

The killing methods in Manhunt were echoed by Leblanc, who beat his victim with a claw hammer and stabbed him repeatedly after luring him to a local park in February.

The move follows earlier controversy over another Rockstar game, Grand Theft Auto (GTA), which has been linked by lawyers to a series of violent crimes in the US.

Jack Thompson, a US-based lawyer and campaigner against violent games, is set to take up the legal action after being contacted by Mrs Pakeerah.

He is convinced there is a direct link between games such as Manhunt and the increasing number of teenage killings.

Speaking from Miami, Florida, he said: "We are planning legal action against Rockstar for inciting and training the perpetrator in the wrongful death of Mrs Pakeerah’s son.

"I think this lawsuit will be successful because there is an increasing linkage between violence and these games.

"Studies show that the brain doesn’t stop maturing until about 25 years of age, so when an adult plays violent games it becomes rational cognitive activity. But in a child, copycat behaviour can occur because the frontal lobe hasn’t completely formed and therefore the emotions are wedded to the images.

"Historically, murderers were older. I believe child murderers are the result of stimuli such as computer games breaking down our inhibitions not to kill other people.

"These games are a piece of absolute nonsense and are very dangerous. Manhunt is a public- safety hazard and we are out to destroy Rockstar."

Rockstar, however, has denied responsibility.

Simon Phillips, group editor of computer magazine Games TM, said Rockstar, a multi-million pound company, would be able to absorb any loss in sales resulting from bad publicity.

"Rockstar will comfortably manage to weather any storm, thanks to its key releases such as Midnight Club 3 and GTA: San Andreas, which will no doubt be the biggest-selling game of the year.


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Lawyer Vows To "Wreck" Computer Game Maker

A FLORIDA lawyer today vowed to destroy Edinburgh games company Rockstar North after the family of a murdered teenager blamed one of its games for their son’s death.

The grieving parents of 14-year-old Stefan Pakeerah have blamed the violent game Manhunt, created by Rockstar North, for the brutal death of their son.

Stefan was battered and stabbed to death by Warren Leblanc, 17, who faces life behind bars after pleading guilty at Leicester Crown Court to the murder.

The victim’s mother Giselle Pakeerah branded Leblanc "inherently evil" and said the vicious and prolonged attack on her son mimicked the game, in which the players are rewarded for carrying out brutal killings.

Now she has contacted Florida lawyer Jack Thompson, who has campaigned against violent video games for the last five years, to bring legal action against the firm.

Mr Thompson said Ms Pakeerah had told him they had to "bring down the company".

He is securing an attorney in the UK to bring a wrongful death lawsuit against the company, seeking damages for the death of her son and a possible injunction to stop the distribution of the game worldwide.

In Manhunt, gamers use weapons, including a claw hammer and a knife, to kill people for the sadistic pleasure of a film director.

Margaret McAllister, a former president of the British Psychological Society, said: "Research shows the small group of children who spend excessive amounts of time, such as eight hours a day, playing computer games are more likely to be less tolerant and aggressive.

"It is extremely unbalanced to spend that much time doing any one thing, and means the young person is not engaging in other activities such as playing, making things and interacting with people. To be in a state of suspended animation for such long periods could start to make them feel like what they are doing in the game is normal."

A spokeswoman for the Entertainment and Leisure Software Publishers’ Association (ELSPA), said: "We sympathise enormously with the family and parents of Stefan Pakeerah. However, we reject any suggestion or association between the tragic events in the Midlands and the sale of the video game Manhunt."

The violence in Manhunt has seen it receive a restricted rating in Canada and led to it being banned in New Zealand.

bloodrayne
08-02-2004, 07:22 AM
This shit is SERIOUSLY beginning to piss me off...Government Intervention?...For VIDEO GAMES???

Pretty soon we will only be permitted to play Mario Brothers...Luigi's Mansion...and Zelda

Don't think that it will stop there, either...

We will be watching Barney on television...
Listening to N'Sync...
Reading Harry Potter (Oh Shit...I almost forgot...That's ALREADY considered "too dark" by many people idiots)
and all movies will be produced by Disney

Of course we HAVE to have our HORROR movies...I hope everyone likes Scooby Doo:rolleyes:


Hey...I have an idea...How about some fucking PERSONAL and PARENTAL RESPONSIBILITY?!

Dr.Kelvinstein
08-02-2004, 11:09 AM
This shit is getting scary. The government has been wanting to shut down anything they don't "get" ever since they passed the damn Patriot Act...and there are lots of things the Republican Party doesn't "get."

Remember when everyone was pissed over seeing a split-second of Janet Jackson's tit, how they used the fact that a Van Helsing trailer was shown during family-friendly hours to help prove that the Super Bowl was evil? I mean, shit, forget about all the rednecks who left the game or the bar after watching the game on the tube and drove home drunk...that's nothing, but they showed a, gulp, vampire on TV. And we all know how dangerous vampires are. No one's EVER killed by a drunk redneck, but vampires kill people every damn day. Lousy nosferatus!!!!

The same kind of people who support shit like this are the same morons who think Bush is cool for attending rodeos. Anyone ever watch a rodeo? Not only are A LOT of animals abused simply so drunken morons can get their sick kicks, but a whole lot of bad grammar is passed around, usually by guys wearing the ugliest shirts on the planet. And how about Bush bragging about how much he supports the NRA while blasting ducks out of the air just for the hell of it? Now that PISSES me off!!! Hell, can you even call that hunting, shooting ducks at what's basically a wildlife reserve? Is that skeet shooting or mere blood sport? To murder animals is okay and probably a healthy Christian passtime, as is gay bashing, but you best not play a video game. And how about Bush campaiging at NASCAR events? America doesn't even speak my language anymore. I have no idea what they're trying to say or why they're saying it.

bwind22
08-02-2004, 11:27 AM
If they pull the game (Which is far and away one of the most badass games to ever be released.) from shelves, I think I'll sue the mother of the killer.

I'll say "He was only 17, what the fuck were you thinking letting him play a game that is clearly rated Mature?" (And for good reason, too! It's hardcore.) "Mature means 18+ lady, now I am suing you because your incompetence in monitoring your child has prohibited me from playing a game that I happen to like and that I also happen to be old enough to play. Emotional damages plus time and court fees... Hmm... $100,000 sounds about right. Pay up bitch!"

To me, the fact that it's rated Mature should be enough. It's the same as an R rated movie or a CD with Parental Advisory. The warnings are there so the parents can be aware of what their kids are up to. What if this kid went out and saw Texas Chainsaw Massacre and then went on a killing spree with a chainsaw? Would they pull the movie off the shelf? Fuck no! They'd say he mimmicked what he saw in the movie, but they sure wouldn't pull it off the shelves because of 1 dumbass kid.

fluffho
08-02-2004, 11:44 AM
its been done before. why is she wasting her time?

Arioch
08-02-2004, 01:50 PM
its been done before. why is she wasting her time?

Agreed. Rockstar has the money to fight this off im sure....its funny that the only thing that WASN'T looked at as a possible cause for this event is the fact that the parents weren't responsible enough to pay attention to their child, and what he was doing....


America doesn't even speak my language anymore. I have no idea what they're trying to say or why they're saying it.

GODDAMN that felt good reading that....i thought it was just me for the longest time...

Chainsaw Guy
08-02-2004, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by bloodrayne
This shit is SERIOUSLY beginning to piss me off...Government Intervention?...For VIDEO GAMES???

Pretty soon we will only be permitted to play Mario Brothers...Luigi's Mansion...and Zelda

Don't think that it will stop there, either...

We will be watching Barney on television...
Listening to N'Sync...
Reading Harry Potter (Oh Shit...I almost forgot...That's ALREADY considered "too dark" by many people idiots)
and all movies will be produced by Disney

Of course we HAVE to have our HORROR movies...I hope everyone likes Scooby Doo:rolleyes:


Hey...I have an idea...How about some fucking PERSONAL and PARENTAL RESPONSIBILITY?!




If they take away my horror movies i will kill them all 1 by 1
and do it slow and painful


and if they do take it off the shelves i already do have a copy heheheh........

Vodstok
08-04-2004, 01:13 PM
I got too angry bto read the end of the 2nd or any of the 3rd.....

18-rated


to the parents of these children... Ahem..


READ THE FUCKING BOX YOU DUMB SHITS!!! 18 MEANS FUCKING 18 OR OLDER!!! IF YOUR 14 YEAR OLD PLAY IT AND KILLS SOME ONE, IT IS YOUR FUCKING FAULT!!!! YOU SHOULD BE INCARCERATED AND FINED, AND FORCED TO MAKE A WRITTEN APOLOGY TO THE GAME COMPANIES......

And another, in triplicate, to be sent to the rest of the human race for dragging us collectively down further into stupidity. You are winning the fught against evolution...

Egekrusher
08-04-2004, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by Arioch
GODDAMN that felt good reading that....i thought it was just me for the longest time...

Same here. This is just absurd. It makes me wonder what the average American is really like. Was Michael Moore not exaggerating? Was he telling the full on truth when he (basically) called us a nation full of scared motherfuckers that try to lay the blame on everyone else?

bwind22
08-04-2004, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by Egekrusher
Same here. This is just absurd. It makes me wonder what the average American is really like. Was Michael Moore not exaggerating? Was he telling the full on truth when he (basically) called us a nation full of scared motherfuckers that try to lay the blame on everyone else?


Michael Moore doesn't tell the full truth. He takes half truths and skews them to support his own beliefs. Then he presents them to public as fact.

zwoti
08-04-2004, 03:19 PM
manhunt is now selling out in stores across the uk, so now such thing as bad publicity.

KRUGERKID13
08-04-2004, 09:54 PM
thats bs

KRUGERKID13
08-04-2004, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by bwind22
Michael Moore doesn't tell the full truth. He takes half truths and skews them to support his own beliefs. Then he presents them to public as fact.

exactly thank you ive been trying top explain that to everyone for so long know



bush/cheney 2004

friday13thfan
08-05-2004, 04:20 AM
it was not the games fault the 17 year old was just fucked up

HappyCamper
08-05-2004, 06:26 AM
to the KILLER'S Parents! WTF?! WHO THE HELL allowed you to bear children?! IF you're FUCKED UP kid, and he is fucked up is STUPID enought to kill his friend, because he's obsessed with a video game then you as PARENTS should be dragged out into the street and be beaten by us videogamers, when you decide to sue the video game company sighting them as 'responsible for your kid's death'

dantehorrorfan
08-05-2004, 11:35 AM
if the governtment bands video games i will kill them off one by one

dantehorrorfan
08-05-2004, 11:41 AM
okay how bout for all the mature games we put not to be played by phyco paths because they might kill somebody over a video game and sue us like we did something wrong we didnt all the creators didnt susspect for some idiot to get there hands on this game with people dying and kill somebody they should know betweeen right and wrong and have the common sense not to kill people