Troma ( B Movies )

[zombieGirl1222]

I love b movies and troma ville is amazing. Who has seen anything from troma such as toxic avenger?

[The Mothman]

Who hasn't seen the Toxic Avenger. First and 4th one are fantastic, rest kinda meh. As for LLoyd Kaufman films a couple of my fans are Terror Firmer and Tromeo and Juliet, his new one Poultrygeist stank unfortunately, couldn't even get through it. As for non Kaufman Troma films, Nightbeast it a great extra cheesy one, definitely a fav, Combat Shock and Surf Nazis Must Die i found a little over rated to be honest but a lot of people dig them, and I've heard Mother's Day is pretty killer too but haven't gotten around to seeing it yet.

[neverending]

My favorite Troma film of all time is Vegas in Space.

[ChronoGrl]

I don't think I've seen a single Troma film. :o

[wizard of gore]

I don't think I've seen a single Troma film. :o

shame on you

still quite a few i still want to see,pot zombies ,rockabilly vampire,rabid grannies(think thats what it was called) and im sure theres more but those ones i want to see the most

[hammerfan]

I don't think I've seen a single Troma film. :o

I know I haven't.

[The Mothman]

Forgot about Redneck Zombies. Love that one need to give it another watch some time. Chronogirl if anything you need to give the Toxic Avenger a watch. I'd say its essential viewing for any horror fan

[wizard of gore]

ya can watch the toxic avenger for free on http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=troma+full+movies&oq=troma&gs_l=youtube.1.1.0l10.2982.4161.0.6193.5.5.0.0.0.0 .46.198.5.5.0...0.0...1ac.1.MgN1YlEp8mQ

[Anthropophagus]

For those that have`nt seen a Troma flic can i say.......................DONT.

If you want ultra low budget with piss awful actors playing crap,childish characters with god awful storylines and equally piss poor FX then go for it.

For those that love horror for what it is then leave well alone.

I dont give a shit whether i am hated for this or not but Troma are a joke,and a very bad one at that.:mad:

[wizard of gore]

For those that have`nt seen a Troma flic can i say.......................DONT.

If you want ultra low budget with piss awful actors playing crap,childish characters with god awful storylines and equally piss poor FX then go for it.

For those that love horror for what it is then leave well alone.

I dont give a shit whether i am hated for this or not but Troma are a joke,and a very bad one at that.:mad:

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQLpUyuMYbq6OZD-0GbUXDhiFaWD4iaRK7PCqHsaE0oxd2ovQgo

[Fearonsarms]

I have a soft spot for many of these as I saw them back in my teens-I think Mother's Day might be my fave but you can't go wrong with Class Of Nuke'Em High.

[Braindamagefilmsfan]

I personally love troma movies myself but they are an accquired taste ;) the best are : pot zombies, redneck zombies, mothers day, toxic avenger 1-4, sgt kabukiman nypd, terror firmer, poultrygeist and tales from the crapper :)

[The Mothman]

For those that have`nt seen a Troma flic can i say.......................DONT.

If you want ultra low budget with piss awful actors playing crap,childish characters with god awful storylines and equally piss poor FX then go for it.

For those that love horror for what it is then leave well alone.

I dont give a shit whether i am hated for this or not but Troma are a joke,and a very bad one at that.:mad:
want to trash you so bad right now but I'll hold out. Lets just say I disagree and leave it at that.

[varo123]

I personally love troma movies myself but they are an accquired taste ;) the best are : pot zombies, redneck zombies, mothers day, toxic avenger 1-4, sgt kabukiman nypd, terror firmer, poultrygeist and tales from the crapper :)

I enjoyed The toxic avenger and loved poultrygeist, I shared poultrygeist with many people who doesn't even know what a "b movie" is, and many of them thought it was worth watching it :D

[Anthropophagus]

want to trash you so bad right now but I'll hold out. Lets just say I disagree and leave it at that.


Hahaha.i knew there would be a backlash,but no worries,i am a big boy and can take care of myself,nah nah ne nah nah.:p

[paws the great]

Check out the Troma produced flick "Father's Day". It's insane!!

[ChronoGrl]

Forgot about Redneck Zombies. Love that one need to give it another watch some time. Chronogirl if anything you need to give the Toxic Avenger a watch. I'd say its essential viewing for any horror fan

It's definitely on my MUST WATCH list. I'm also curious about Tromeo and Juliet (former English major)

ya can watch the toxic avenger for free on http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=troma+full+movies&oq=troma&gs_l=youtube.1.1.0l10.2982.4161.0.6193.5.5.0.0.0.0 .46.198.5.5.0...0.0...1ac.1.MgN1YlEp8mQ

Thanks! It's also available on Netflix Instant. Could be in my near future. :D

[42ndego]

Has anyone heard anything lately on the Toxic Avenger remake?

[wizard of gore]

Has anyone heard anything lately on the Toxic Avenger remake?

who cares..it will be full of cgi

[42ndego]

Well that's a given. I just haven't heard if they were still going to go through with it or not.

[zombieGirl1222]

you guys are awesome that you love troma ville and movies that are chessy. Yes troma is really bad but its so amazing. Im in the process of writing a movie and I am going to try and send it in to troma and yes i will make a really bad movie but thats what I enjoy and thats what alot of other people enjoy.

[zombieGirl1222]

rumor has it that john travolta is going to play toxie

[SMBProductions]

I love "Mother's Day", my favorite, and it was just released on Blu-Ray!

[42ndego]

rumor has it that john travolta is going to play toxie

*In the best John travolta voice* "I'm a mutant, oh ma god!"

[tfantasy]

Wow......crazy shit!!

I watched all the Toxic Avenger movies back in the day along with Mother's Day but I guess I missed some!!

I found a whole section of the Troma Production movies on a free channel through my Roku.

I posted in another thread about how it irked me with sex scenes in horror movies but it seems to fit for the Troma movies.

:shocked:

[Sculpt]

Wow......crazy shit!!

I watched all the Toxic Avenger movies back in the day along with Mother's Day but I guess I missed some!!

I found a whole section of the Troma Production movies on a free channel through my Roku.

I posted in another thread about how it irked me with sex scenes in horror movies but it seems to fit for the Troma movies.

:shocked:
Haven't seen either one. I had someone describe Blood Sucking Freaks to me, but that was 20 years ago.

What did you think of BSF and Tromeo & Juliet?

The "boob reveal" in a bunch of horror films always indicates to me a cheap clique horror film -- 90% don't have a story or characters worth a buck.

[Giganticface]

Blood Sucking Freaks is distributed by Troma, but it's not a typical Troma film. It's a fairly explicit 70s exploitation torture film, less campy and more nudity than most Troma films. It was originally called The Incredible Torture Show but Troma renamed it when they acquired it. I didn't like it all that much. Not much of a story, some annoying characters, and I didn't find the torture all that believable. Even so, it's a notorious film that left some mark, so worth watching for historical purposes, if nothing else. There's a little bit of fun to be had there.

I haven't seen Tromeo and Juliet, but it's on the short list of most popular Troma films, so probably worth a watch if you like other films in the catalog.

[Anthropophagus]

BSF is as described by Giantface,i kinds liked it but it does have its faults and of course low budget issues.

As for Troma,well that's another bag of worms altogether.personally i hate Troma.They are cheap,which isnt a fault i admit,but its crass and treats its audience like dumb ass cretins who scrape their knuckles across the floor.Dreadful FX which i could do better with a bowl of cornflakes and some jam.And worse still the god awful acting from both male and female leads.

I know i will probably get slammed for saying this but hey,i`m a big boy now and been around long enough to know crap when i see it and Troma has it in spades.

[Mormo Zine]

BSF is a ultimate cult classic! Super twisted and fun! I love it!

Tromeo And Juliet is a great movie I really like. However I feel it was the start of Troma making strictly gross out shock comedies. Up until then their movies seemed like real movies just very off beat and strange. T & J and after Troma's movies became anti-movies.

Check out Father's Day from Troma if you get a chance. That movie will make you puke!

[Giganticface]

As for Troma,well that's another bag of worms altogether.personally i hate Troma.They are cheap,which isnt a fault i admit,but its crass and treats its audience like dumb ass cretins who scrape their knuckles across the floor.Dreadful FX which i could do better with a bowl of cornflakes and some jam.And worse still the god awful acting from both male and female leads.

Haha, so well put! I laughed out loud. I'm not much of a Troma fan either.



Check out Father's Day from Troma if you get a chance. That movie will make you puke!

Yeah that one's pretty twisted. I doubt I would watch it again, but it was something.

[Ferox13]

I am a big fan of the ballet - so of course Blood Sucking Freaks is right up my street. On a side note, Sardu's midget sidekick did a lot of porn films under the name, Mr. Short Stud - and no I am not making it up..

[Sculpt]

Based on the descriptions, it's definitely not for me. Don't want to see gore/torture for entertainment. News has enough negativity to last a life time. Better things to think about. I prefer good horror stories, to say the least.

Brings to my mind the recent documentary "The Act of Killing" where the murdering thugs admit they got their torture ideas from American films. Very old debate, I ain't gonna splash blame, just saying sometimes life does imitate art.

[neverending]

Sometimes people say God told them to kill. Maybe we should get rid of all that God stuff.... ::embarrassment::

[Giganticface]

Based on the descriptions, it's definitely not for me. Don't want to see gore/torture for entertainment. News has enough negativity to last a life time. Better things to think about. I prefer good horror stories, to say the least.

That's actually why I like disturbing and "feel bad" fictional films -- because no matter how uncomfortable it makes me feel (a feeling I enjoy for some reason), I know it's not real.

Brings to my mind the recent documentary "The Act of Killing" where the murdering thugs admit they got their torture ideas from American films. Very old debate, I ain't gonna splash blame, just saying sometimes life does imitate art.

It's an old debate, but a pretty weak one. People have been doing horrible things to each other before art really existed, certainly long before film existed, and especially long before it was culturally acceptable to put disturbing things on film.

For the same reasons I love disturbing fiction, I actually don't enjoy disturbing non-fiction like the documentary you mentioned. I have it in my Netflix queue, but I pass it up every night because I know I won't find it much fun to watch. I also have trouble watching the news any more because it makes me sad. I know some would probably criticize me for being out of touch with real life, but I don't really care. I'd rather just play with my kids, then watch something fake that's disturbing.

[Mormo Zine]

Yeah that one's pretty twisted. I doubt I would watch it again, but it was something.

Same here. Father's Day the holiday is a difficult day for me so I was hoping I would really like Troma's Father's Day and it could become a yearly tradition. I liked it but I don't think I will watch again. If they make another movie I will watch it for sure though!!

[Sculpt]

Sometimes people say God told them to kill. Maybe we should get rid of all that God stuff.... ::embarrassment::
Yes, that is the 'very old debate' I was referencing...

Based on your reply, I'm not certain you ultimately understood what I was stating. I clearly stated it wasn't a film for me. I've never advocated banning films. I believe in the free market place of ideas. I never stated a film was the cause for violence. It should go without saying humans have that covered without art.

I stated it reminded me of one particular case were a film's torture was mimicked, which isn't the only recorded case of film torture mimicry. But the point is: voluminous and extensive studies have been completed on the relationship between violent imagery and violent behavior, since it was requested by the US Surgeon General in 2000. The findings were there's a significant correlation between violent image exposure and the likelihood of aggressive and violent behavior -- immediacy, frequency, intensity and character of violence -- also surveyed participation in bullying and violence related attitudes.

If one thinks stating these findings is the same as advocating banning material, they would be incorrect and erroneously projecting. On the contrary, the findings are useful in deciding one's own consumption of material (and/or their own children). Personally, I didn't need to see the conclusions of the voluminous studies to know what one occupies their mind with has an effect on one’s thoughts, values and ultimately, to some degree, their behavior. Stories inspire; it’s not a new conclusion. Its obvious the effects are variable and individual. What I stated is it has an effect, that BSF (film) is not for me, and one’s time is limited. I don't see how that's debateable, but anyone can knock themselves out. I'm not demanding anyone do or not do anything. People hear others, but make their own choices.

[neverending]

Yep, I understood without the lecture.

[Giganticface]

Yes, that is the 'very old debate' I was referencing...

Based on your reply, I'm not certain you ultimately understood what I was stating. I clearly stated it wasn't a film for me. I've never advocated banning films. I believe in the free market place of ideas. I never stated a film was the cause for violence. It should go without saying humans have that covered without art.

I stated it reminded me of one particular case were a film's torture was mimicked, which isn't the only recorded case of film torture mimicry. But the point is: voluminous and extensive studies have been completed on the relationship between violent imagery and violent behavior, since it was requested by the US Surgeon General in 2000. The findings were there's a significant correlation between violent image exposure and the likelihood of aggressive and violent behavior -- immediacy, frequency, intensity and character of violence -- also surveyed participation in bullying and violence related attitudes.

If one thinks stating these findings is the same as advocating banning material, they would be incorrect and erroneously projecting. On the contrary, the findings are useful in deciding one's own consumption of material (and/or their own children). Personally, I didn't need to see the conclusions of the voluminous studies to know what one occupies their mind with has an effect on one’s thoughts, values and ultimately, to some degree, their behavior. Stories inspire; it’s not a new conclusion. Its obvious the effects are variable and individual. What I stated is it has an effect, that BSF (film) is not for me, and one’s time is limited. I don't see how that's debateable, but anyone can knock themselves out. I'm not demanding anyone do or not do anything. People hear others, but make their own choices.

I read Charles Dickens once, then wanted to go behead people.

It's too bad people still have the Tipper Gore mentality. I'm actually a little offended, but not really because I know it's asinine.

These "voluminous" studies are likely nonexistant or flawed. I have two engineering degrees from acclaimed universities, and in grad school we spent a great deal of time, with some of the top engineering professors in the country, debunking "studies" for failing to be technically sound. The ones that are truly attempting to be legitimate can be flawed due to an improperly-applied equation, or a flaw in a mathematical derivation. Other, less legitimate studies, are not really scientific at all, they just mask "data" in an attempt to prove a finding for a particular interest group.

Unless the research was published by an accredited journal of engineering or science, it hasn't undergone the scrutiny required to be considered actual science. And just because the news reports something scientific doesn't mean it's science. They just need it to be science-y so it supports their story. It really is one of the great ironies -- how many decisions are made every day based on "scientific studies" that don't actually conclude anything. I used to work as an engineer for a large company, representing the company at government hearings that influenced legislation. You wouldn't believe (well, I couldn't) how much non-science is quoted as science, from corporations, activist groups, and the government themselves. It's actually kinda sad.

However, if you're going to cite the voluminous studies, it might be worthwhile to actually care about the conclusions. I wouldn't be surprised if many of these studies that correlate violent actions to violent media actually "conclude" that the violent kids were already screwed up during their upbringing due to abuse, neglect or some traumatic experience, before being exposed to the violent media. It's the whole Judas Priest song suicide case from the late 80s. Really? We really think those kids killed themselves because they listened to a Judas Priest song? Kinda idiotic isn't it?

I watch some of the most screwed up stuff imaginable and I've never even been in a fist fight my whole live, and I doubt I ever will. I have no pent up need to harm anybody. I watch the stuff because it's emotionally stimulating, and nothing more.

Granted, I certainly won't be exposing my children to most of the nasty stuff I watch, but that's not because I'm concerned they'll want to mimic the actions in the film. I just don't want them to be traumatized for no reason at an early age. That's just common sense, not due to any so-called "findings."

[Sculpt]

I care about the conclusions. Ya say you spent time debunking research and/or it's conclusions in college. But you don't mention debunking any of the research on this subject.

Sure, any research or conclusion could be wrong. Who's doing the study, do they have an ax to grind? I take that for granted. But it's just sloppy thinking to assume all research we initially disagree with is wrong, without analyzing it.

There's research demonstrating a table top is mostly empty space (physics). I've pounded on the table. Without analyzing the research, it sure seems like bunk. But it doesn't mean it is bunk.

Here's some of the research. If you want to grab one and analyse it, I'd be happy to hear your findings.
http://www.lionlamb.org/mediaviolencefactsheet.pdf
http://lionlamb.org/research.html

[Giganticface]

I care about the conclusions. Ya say you spent time debunking research and/or it's conclusions in college. But you don't mention debunking any of the research on this subject.

Sure, any research or conclusion could be wrong. Who's doing the study, do they have an ax to grind? I take that for granted. But it's just sloppy thinking to assume all research we initially disagree with is wrong, without analyzing it.

There's research demonstrating a table top is mostly empty space (physics). I've pounded on the table. Without analyzing the research, it sure seems like bunk. But it doesn't mean it is bunk.

Here's some of the research. If you want to grab one and analyse it, I'd be happy to hear your findings.
http://www.lionlamb.org/mediaviolencefactsheet.pdf
http://lionlamb.org/research.html

I won't be doing any debunking. My days of academia are long past and it's not something that can be done in a matter of minutes or even hours. However, looking at the lionlamb.org research page, I notice that it's a combination of interest-driven opinion statements, fact sheets, articles not published in accredited scientific journals, and some articles that are (I suspect) accredited.

Looking into the first article that I believe is accredited ( "The effects of violent video game habits on adolescent hostility, aggressive behaviors, and school performance", published in the Journal of Adolescence -- I'll ask my wife if it's accredited, she is an occupational therapist with a Masters in Child Psychology ), skimming the research and jumping to the findings, the conclusions state:


That youth who are more hostile also play more violent video games raises questions of causality. Are young adolescents more hostile and aggressive because they expose themselves to media violence, or do previously hostile adolescents prefer violent media? Due to the correlational nature of this study, we cannot answer this question directly.

And...


It is important to note, however, that this study is limited by its correlational nature. Inferences about causal direction should be viewed with caution.


So, without evaluating the quality of the data and the actual statistical analysis, I'll assume the article does a good job of establishing a correlation between violent video game play and acts of aggression, but does not establish the conclusion that one causes the other. I suspect many of the other actually scientific papers will have similar language clarifying their conclusions.

Listen, I'm not proposing that exposing children to violent entertainment is a good thing. I'm not really sure how you managed to migrate this conversation from Lee's "God told them to kill" quip, to a debate over whether we should let children watch an extreme exploitation film about torture. We're all adults here, or close enough. It's the wrong forum to pass judgement on grown ass people who enjoy watching violence for entertainment. This is a horror forum, remember? Not Lion and the Lamb dot org.

[Sculpt]

Listen, I'm not proposing that exposing children to violent entertainment is a good thing. I'm not really sure how you managed to migrate this conversation from Lee's "God told them to kill" quip, to a debate over whether we should let children watch an extreme exploitation film about torture. We're all adults here, or close enough. It's the wrong forum to pass judgement on grown ass people who enjoy watching violence for entertainment. This is a horror forum, remember? Not Lion and the Lamb dot org.
Thank you for well thought out and tempered reply. I dislike arguing, & especially dislike being on the 'unpopular' side. I have to force myself to present the facts & whatever logic I have.

Respectfully, I found the 'quip', & some things you've said incongruous to what I've written. I didn't bring up children, I brought up myself, & those thugs in Indonesia. I realise much of the research on that site was completed on children, but I'm not talking about children. I agree with you, first thing I thought when I read the site was called "lionandlamb" I knew they had an ax to grind; but the members of the site didn't conduct the research, they've collected it; and yes, much of the research is accredited and published in social science journals.

I didn't write, nor will ever suggest, if any adult watches Blood Sucking Freaks they will go out and torture and kill people. I know that's absurd. If anyone thinks I'm saying that, they are accidentally, or purposely, missing my point.

I've been a student of Social Science all my life. Again, my point is simply this: what anyone (adult or child) mentally takes-in (watches, reads, listens, in contact with) affects them, to some degree in various ways, usually a 'slow burn' so to speak, subconsciously &/or consciously -- affecting what they think & dream about afterwards, subconscious/conscious attractions/revolutions, sensitizations/desensitizations levels in fears, compassion, attitudes, beliefs, etc. I've seen that in my life. It's literally text book classical/operate reward/punishment conditioning. I think it's common sense. It's an important thing for an adult to understand & decide for themselves: know yourself, what do you want to be, what takes you there or moves you away. Simply that.

[Geordie9]

I love Poultygeist Night Of The Chicken Dead, i think its hilariously stupid!!

[The Bloofer Lady]

I do enjoy a good Troma film!(and yes, I do think the words "good" and "Troma " can be used in the same sentence). ::big grin::

[tfantasy]

I liked Blood Sucking Freaks, Tromeo & Juliet, and Happy Mother's Day.

Back in the day, I watched the first two Toxic Avengers.....fun stuff!!

[neverending]

Three little words: Vegas In Space.

[horcrux2007]

Surf Nazis Must Die is where it's at.

[RadioactiveCinemaCult]

Troma, it works, or it doesn't.

Toxic Avenger worked. Monster In The Closet did not. Couple of Toxic Avenger sequels were really painful to witness.

Lloyd Kaufman seems pretty funny guy, who does not take things seriously. But I really can't say anything else, because I have never met him.

I still want to watch Surf Nazis Must Die (1987), Poultrygeist: Night of the Chicken Dead (2006) and couple of others. And it is all about trash movies and B-movies. Independence of making films and all...

Collection Of Troma Films. (http://www.troma.com/films/)

[horrorfun]

I really loved Night Beast. Toxic Advenger is another I have fond memories watching.

[nursecaligari]

::devil::