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[50BCPRODUCTIONS]

Howdy,
I am new to this board so an introduction first:
My name is Dustin Bennett,I am an independent film director from Reading Pennsylvania,USA.
I have directed many Horror shorts and have made the switch to feature length films with my Production company partner and fellow director Troy Collins.
Our first feature length film is called "Flesh Crawl" and has recieved a very enthusiastic response...release for the film is still a ways off as its stil being edited.
It is a retro 70s Horror film with Romero style Zombies while offering a new spin on the genre.
I have also been involved with the production of a slasher film entitled "Not Alone" in a director capacity.
Troy and I have now formed a production company called:
50BCPRODUCTIONS,LLC.
You can check out the site (still a basic shell) at:
WWW.50BCPRODUCTIONS.COM
Why should you check it out?
Because if you are an actor/model/actress/director or are involved in the Horror film making business we would like you to submit headshots or current projets to the "submissions" address located on the 50BC site.
Send your submissions along with a brief bio, along with a note singed by you stating that you allow 50bc to help promote your submission in a non monetary exchange.
You have to have submissions sent by March 29 2006.
If you have sent an acceptable submission,we will help promote your project for free!
Why would we do this?
Because every project will get promoted like crazy through all the different areas we can diversley promote to.
Its free promotion/publicity for all involved.
Questions?
Email me.
Dont delay,its a new concept we are trying out.
Make sure your copyrights are in place before making any submissions!
Talk with you soon-Dustin
Director "Flesh Crawl" and "Not Alone"
"Not Alone"trailer will premiere on the 50BC site.
WWW.50BCPRODUCTIONS.COM
WWW.FLESHCRAWLMOVIE.COM
Submissions by snail mail only please!
Scoring soundtracks and short films-CD,DvD-R and plus R are also acceptable.

[slasherman]

Originally posted by 50BCPRODUCTIONS

WWW.50BCPRODUCTIONS.COM
WWW.50BCPRODUCTIONS.COM
WWW.FLESHCRAWLMOVIE.COM


SPAM

[50BCPRODUCTIONS]

Hah...didnt know "Slasherman" had responded to this link as well.
Dont know if he cant see the sites or has something against me.
But:
Go to Google.Com
Run FLESH CRAWL in search and you will find many various interviews we have done for Horrormovies.ca,Moviesonline,Fangoria.Com and many many more.
I assure you all folks,we are the real deal.
I saw "Slashermans" SPAM response in another post I had made.
I have emailed him to try to fix the problem,but have not heard back from him yet.
Its my first day on this board,I hope its all a misunderstanding.
Honestly folks,check us out.
We are not a spam or scam site.
Sorry for his post confusing you all.
Later-Dustin

[sabersword]

Slasherman, I just knew you would be right there with your banner waving(SPAM). Ha! Carry on brother.

[50BCPRODUCTIONS]

Oh,ok....its a game?Someone talks about their own film and you yell SPAM?
Sorry,didnt know it wasnt allowed here.
But,if you cant plug your own films or favors you do for other artists,who will?
Adios amigos-D

[cheebacheeba]

Would you go into business with someone you didn't know?
Did we ask to see your wares? no.
You're looking at this place as a free advertising medium, and nothing more.
This isn't your shop, we're not your customers.
You can post it, but we are not obliged to be accomodating.

Perhaps if you'd spent a little time actually posting here, contributing to the site and "community" we'd have done you the favour of having a look-see...but at this point, it would appear that you are just here to exploit us, so you can get hits on your website, and for the record, your "new concept" sounds dodgy.
Sounds like you're advising on the copyright as a loophole to say "I told you so" and completely plagiarise the fuck outta anyone who submitted any work without a copyright.

I don't like you, mister.

This message is under international copyright of cheebaco. Industries Pty Ltd

[The STE]

ok, look at it like this:
You wouldn't go up to some person (or group of people) on the street and start talking about your movie project. They'd look at you like you were some asshole, and rightfully so. But, it's more than reasonable to tell some of your friends/acquaintances about your movie project.
Same thing with this. Don't come up to us and tell us about your movie project, cause chances are we won't give a shit

[slasherman]

I got this e-mail:

Hello,
Not sure what your problem is,but why would you reply that my film site is SPAM?
If you are having trouble viewing my site from Norway...try emailing me first
before you ruin my post.
Better yet try searching it in GOOGLE search.
Or on Horrormovies.ca,or Fangoria.com
Hope when you figure it out you will apologize in this forum?
Later-Dustin

I never tried to click on the link....and apologize ?
NEVER

[50BCPRODUCTIONS]

OK....this is a first.
I have been on tons of Independnt boards in the past,but this is the fist one that doesnt actually like to talk about upcoming independent film projects in the works brought up by the people making the films.
My new concept sounds "Dodgy"?....hardly.
If your copyrighted you have no worries.The concept is similiar to the website "youdontknowmeyet.com" only free and a courtesy to other independent artists.
Who would be stupid enough to submit work without a copyright attached?
You dont like me?
Well,thats an awfully personal statement to make.
And too bad.
Look in my first post,I responded to "any indie films that take place in the woods 'and after responding I was slammed by "Slasherman" with the word SPAM.
I mistook his comment as though he was having trouble getting into the site and wrongly accusing it as a spam or virus site.
Instead of being assholes about it,maybe you guys could nicely say "we dont accept links like that" or state it as policy somewhere on the boards?
All boards are different...sounds like you guys have a real tight-nit community here.
After the way you have treated me on the first day here,I dont want to be part of it.
For those that did respond via email or pm positively,Thanks!
For those that dont give a shit or are paranoid about loopholes they think Im looking for....too bad, It could have been cool.
My last post here ...if you guys want to keep talking about this,that would be great!
Probably get me a whole lot more hits for my site.
Whatever.
I wasnt here to get "hits" on my website.
As a Horror fan,I usually get interested and excited in new independent films,rather than hear about another Horror movie remake,thought you guys would too.
I like to hear about new Zombie films or a slasher film with a new spin on the genre,coming from outside Hollywood.
Seems you guys would rather condemn it.
And if you dont want to hear about new independent Horror films,why are you on this forum?
I guess to yell "SPAM" whenever someone does bring up their own film.
Yee-Haw,sure sounds like fun!
"Saddle up the mule and get the shotgun Pa...someone talked about their own film!"
And to "THE STE":Would I go up to a group of strangers and start talking about my film?
No,of course not.
Would I go up to a group of Horror fans and start talking about my film?
Damn staight.
True Horror fans would give a shit,regardless of the film or whoevers talking about it because its all about Horror isnt it?

[urgeok]

i dont see a problem with self promotion in the indie forum.

[cheebacheeba]

My main problem...as always, is that the level of contribution to the site was minimal, or in this case nonexistant prior to the person in question "pimping" their work. You can't just say "ok, so these people are horror fans, so it's all cool to throw anything horror related their way, and expect them to lap it up"
I'm all for people into independant film to have a good go at it, the results may vary, but hey, I find a lot of independant films a very rewarding watch. However, I'm also all for proper decorum.
When there's been no contact whatsoever, no discussion, no exchange of ideas prior to presenting me/us with this information, it comes across to me as a little souless, as though the fact we are more than merely customers/targets is irrelevant ...not the best comparison, but it's like if you were to chat a chick up by saying "sooo....you're female...see, I got a dick here, now fuck me!!!"
Get to know her first, buy her a drink or two, then hit her with your ulterior motive.
I believe that regardless of independant film-makers out there not having the easiest of times with promotion, and putting a lot of personal finance and effort into their work, that being too foward is simply rude, no matter what the scenario.

I wish you good luck, and hope that you will understand that first impressions are important, for future reference.
Approach with caution, know your target,....be the ball, or some such whateverthefuck.
;)

[zwoti]

depends on why they are here, are they here to join the community or simply to pimp their wares.

[ShankS]

I'm not bothered about the spamming or promotion, as long as it's in this section.... didn't we decide it was ok for people involved in new films/productions to post in the Indie? Keeps it all in one place.

sounds like I've 'change my tune' but it used to get spammed all over the place before, and that was annoying.

[urgeok]

Originally posted by zwoti
depends on why they are here, are they here to join the community or simply to pimp their wares.

lately - the latter option seems better :p

[slasherman]

Originally posted by 50BCPRODUCTIONS
My last post here ...if you guys want to keep talking about this,that would be great!

..bye bye

[urgeok]

you know what ...

this could be a unique chance to meet people who's work we may come to see and like ..
probably not many - but it's a possibility.

IF they research HDC enough to know that they pimp their stuff in this fourm ONLY
IF they present themselves honestly...

who knows .. maybe these guys would stay and dig in if folks started a dialogue about their flick.

This is not a very busy spot on the forum ... if these guys generate a little traffic what of it ?

No one is forcing us to read it - it really isnt very intrusive ...

I think this is the place to pimp.


The one's i dont like are the morons who spam all over the different forums .. and the one's i REALLY hate are the one's who try to come off as if it was just some wonderful thing they happened upon, instead of just stating honestly that they are the filmakers, or friends of.

an honest approach at sharing what could potentially be an interesting project does seem appropriate for a horror forum if done properly.

I really dont think they have to be pals with everyone first ...

if what they're selling is shit - then they'll get a good honest opinion from the people here ...that should provide much needed fun for all the little forum bulldogs ...

[slasherman]

Originally posted by urgeok


IF they research HDC enough to know that they pimp their stuff in this fourm ONLY
IF they present themselves honestly...

who knows .. maybe these guys would stay and dig in if folks started a dialogue about their flick.


the problem with this guy is that he started to pimp his link in other threads too...
http://www.horror.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20132

[RavageRitual]

This whole thing seems pointless to me. Yea hes posting about his movie. But hes an independent filmmaker. He needs to get his movie out thier somehow. Ive talked to this guy before and hes really horror smart. Much more than me. And he would have been a good member. It kind of makes me sad that this happened.

[The STE]

Originally posted by 50BCPRODUCTIONS
And to "THE STE":Would I go up to a group of strangers and start talking about my film?
No,of course not.
Would I go up to a group of Horror fans and start talking about my film?
Damn staight.
True Horror fans would give a shit,regardless of the film or whoevers talking about it because its all about Horror isnt it?

no

[Posher778]

i don't really no what to say to this. so... yeah... the spam stuff bothers me to no end, so, maybe there should be a section where people like that can post their stuff, and not bother to post it anywhere else.

[tonemeister]

i thought this forum was the place for that....but i got put in my place right away as well.

[50BCPRODUCTIONS]

ok...I have recieved a few emails asking me to return and was surprised at some of the positive feedback being given to these posts.I also have talked with some of the members here who I had the problem with and things are cool.
So,I am back.
But,where do we all stand on this board?
Im a horror fan and a lover of indie films as well.
What capacity would you all like to see this board used for?
Is talking about new film projects (other than my own) acceptable?
Is this only for reviewing new indie projects that can be rented?
Or do we keep the film making aspect to a different forum?
Lets figure this out.
Thanks for the positive posts and to those that have agreed to allow me to return.
Whatever agreemeent we come to:I wont let you down.

[sabersword]

Slasherman is quick! If he smells spam, then let us know. Personally, to spam or not to spam dont bother me. However, this is one of the few fourms that I have been on that, being a christan and liking horror films did not disqualify me from the git go so, I would like to hang around for a while. Humm, that made on sence, but, thats how I feal about it.

[slasherman]

Originally posted by sabersword
Slasherman is quick! If he smells spam, then let us know.
thanks......:p

[Posher778]

slasherman is to spam like shark is to blood

[ADOM]

Originally posted by urgeok
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No one is forcing us to read it - it really isnt very intrusive ...

...
Thankyou!
If the title is honest about what the post is, then it's not like calling you at home or walking up to you on the street. It's like putting something in a window. You can keep walking or stop and look.