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dockerslund
11-02-2003, 12:57 PM
I just saw The Ring (the Japanese version).
There's a couple of things, which I didn't understand.

1. The phone didn't ring, when the guy saw the film.

2. When they look at the footage, with the dead people in the car...how could Sadako get them. They weren't near a TV.

dmihatmttl
11-02-2003, 02:50 PM
Here's my take on it:

1-) If I'm not mistaken, didn't the lead character (the female reporter) walk outside while her ex watched the video? I believe the viewer is "with" her when she does this . . . the male then acts as if the video did not bother him in the least. Who's to say he wasn't lying, that the phone didn't ring inside the house but he's in "denial" that the legend is real? I could be confusing the American remake with the original on this one, but I'm pretty sure this scene was almost exactly the same in the original. I always figured that just because you (the viewer) didn't *hear* the phone ring did not mean it didn't happen.

I'm not 100% sure on that one, but there's my $.02 for what it's worth. As for your second question, that one's easy . . . .

2-) It doesn't matter whether you are near a TV or not. Sadako will get you when your 7 days is up. Doesn't matter where you are. You can't run. You can't hide. You're still gonna die of fright at the hands of Sadako.


Hope this helps. From a huge fan of both versions,



James
http://members.tripod.com/~NEWMANATOR/index.html

dockerslund
11-02-2003, 03:33 PM
Ok, I see.
I just thought that the only way she could get you, would be by coming out of your TV.

SoUl SuRvIvOrS
11-02-2003, 07:12 PM
Seen it yet?

MichaelMyers
11-02-2003, 07:20 PM
Kind of off-topic, but it's amazing how many people don't know there's a Japanese version to this film, and have this dumbstruck look when you tell them there is one (that's better than the US version, IMO) . "You mean they make movies in Japan, too?" :)

SoUl SuRvIvOrS
11-02-2003, 07:22 PM
heheheh...I MUST AGREE....Some people are very close minded and dont even realize it.

mictlan
11-02-2003, 07:44 PM
Regarding question 2, one of the fiends on the Ring forum (http://pub70.ezboard.com/btheringforum) once said that in the books, Sadako could come out of any reflective surface. A few of the Ring forum members took the time to translate the manga AND scanned it. It's worth checking out (http://www.nensha.net/rasen.html).

Ringu was great - but Dark Water (same director and writer) was even better, IMHO. I think that the Dreamworks Ring borrowed a lot from that film too.

I'm curious about Ring 2, would like to see it.






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avenger00soul
11-03-2003, 06:12 AM
Originally posted by mictlan
Regarding question 2, one of the fiends on the Ring forum (http://pub70.ezboard.com/btheringforum) once said that in the books, Sadako could come out of any reflective surface. A few of the Ring forum members took the time to translate the manga AND scanned it. It's worth checking out (http://www.nensha.net/rasen.html).

Ringu was great - but Dark Water (same director and writer) was even better, IMHO. I think that the Dreamworks Ring borrowed a lot from that film too.

I'm curious about Ring 2, would like to see it.






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Ring 2 is being Americanized, as well as Dark Water.

As far as people not knowing about Ringu, you can't really blame them. I mean, it's hard to find those movies here to rent. You can buy them all, but what average movie-goer is going to do that. I'm used to people's reactions when I tell them The Ring was a remake, but I understand why they think that way.

moonsorrow
11-03-2003, 06:24 AM
Originally posted by MichaelMyers
Kind of off-topic, but it's amazing how many people don't know there's a Japanese version to this film, and have this dumbstruck look when you tell them there is one (that's better than the US version, IMO) . "You mean they make movies in Japan, too?" :)

iv always known it exists but never seen it, i do however hear thats its 10 times creepyer then the ring...is that true? i have to see it in that case, cause the ring freaked me out.

dmihatmttl
11-03-2003, 06:57 AM
Definitely check it out if you can find it, Moonsorrow. It's fantastic. The first movie to keep me awake at night since I was 7 or 8 years old! No shit . . . .

To be perfectly honest, I think I liked both the Japanese original and the American remake equally. Or at least damn close to equally. But the original holds a special place in my heart because I'd been searching for it for a while (like yourself) before I finally got to see a horrible (quality-wise) bootleg version. The chase is better than the catch, as they say. :)


Great films, both of them. Both have an atmosphere of sheer unease that other horror films of today should aspire to. And as for the remake, *that* is the way you do a remake, by God! With respect for the original, and reverence for what made its scares work in the first place . . . .



All my opinion, of course. Thanks for listening.



James
http://members.tripod.com/~NEWMANATOR/index.html

SoUl SuRvIvOrS
11-04-2003, 04:59 PM
sometimes it doesnt hurt to leave a movie alone and let it stay in the original form in which it was born from.

Killer Clown#1
11-04-2003, 05:10 PM
I have never seen Ringu because I am not a big fan of Asian horror or whatever you call it and I have no intrest in ever watching one again. I would watch them if they replaced all of the actors with American actors.

SoUl SuRvIvOrS
11-04-2003, 05:15 PM
Sometimes...I think the movie would be better if I knew the actors...but not knowing the actors leaves the not knowing who will be next...I have found some of the asian actors that really suck...but we have them here too.(ones that suck ass)

Killer Clown#1
11-04-2003, 05:18 PM
To me all Asian people look the same so those movies confuse me. "Wait I thought he died oh yeah his brother died no wait what the fuck did he look like...ummm oh shit I can't tell.

SoUl SuRvIvOrS
11-04-2003, 05:24 PM
didnt you know Asian Horror (or movies in general) are a mind game.. they try to see if you remember who was who . I would even go to far as say some movies I have seen probably only have four actors and they are key grips, producers, directors, editors,camera guys...all in one...:p

nightbreed
11-05-2003, 10:11 AM
this is kinda complex but bear with me.
in ringu, when she watches the tape there is a dude standing there with a towel over his head pointing, later this is reveiled to be her boyfriend showing her that she made a copy. now what the crap is this? If his only purpose in the tape is to show the woman that she made a copy in the tvs refelection, to anyone else who saw it her boyfriend standing there would have absolutly no significance, even within the storyline of the little girl. so is this version of the tape exclusive to her? Or is every tape different for everyone who watches it? And if thats is the case then why would making copies make any difference seeing that each person views a movie that is completly exclusive to their own life and essentially everyone would be seeing a different tape.

this was the primary loop hole ive found in the story.

freddy13
11-05-2003, 05:17 PM
i thought ringu was in chinees.:mad:

Colm O' Toole
11-06-2003, 05:32 AM
The Ring Series was originally made in Japan. But Hollywood did a remake of the film and plan to make a sequel American version as well.

_Leatha_Face_
11-06-2003, 05:34 AM
a sequel hmmm... not to sure about that 1

avenger00soul
11-07-2003, 06:02 AM
Originally posted by Colm O' Toole
The Ring Series was originally made in Japan. But Hollywood did a remake of the film and plan to make a sequel American version as well.

I hear they are disregarding the Japanese sequel and are going with their own ideas. I also hear that it will serve as a sequel and a prequel. Don't know how true this stuff is though.

_Leatha_Face_
11-07-2003, 06:04 AM
Originally posted by avenger00soul
I hear they are disregarding the Japanese sequel and are going with their own ideas. I also hear that it will serve as a sequel and a prequel. Don't know how true this stuff is though. hmmmm...

bloodrayne
09-13-2005, 06:03 AM
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