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Arioch
11-04-2004, 08:35 AM
I consider myself an agnostic, who acknowledges the idea that a god can exist but also acknowledges the fact that we will never have any proof....but lately i have felt stomped down and oppressed by the overwhelming white christian majority around me......

Just want to know what the stats are of horror...

urgeok
11-04-2004, 08:41 AM
i dont believe there is a god anymore than i believe in ghosts fairies werewolves vampires leprechauns bigfoot nessie magic or any other paranormal folklore.

that aughta make me even more popular than i am now ...

bloodrayne
11-04-2004, 08:43 AM
LOL..It seems that almost EVERYONE that I've been hangin' with lately is either Wiccan or Pagan...Hmm...Christians seem to be the MINORITY 'round here...

zwoti
11-04-2004, 08:45 AM
atheist

urgeok
11-04-2004, 08:45 AM
people are always looking for proof .. they say look at the miracle of life ..

i say look at a newspaper or the TV ... thats daily proof enough for me that there is no such thing.

And i know all the arguments because i was a blind faith christian as a child ..

Haunted
11-04-2004, 08:49 AM
I am a filthy heathen Pagan infidel not to mention a horrible terrible Witch.

bloodrayne
11-04-2004, 08:50 AM
Originally posted by urgeok
i dont believe there is a god anymore than i believe in ghosts fairies werewolves vampires OH...This guy believes that he really IS a Vampire..There is actually an entire religion based on THAT, too...

bloodrayne
11-04-2004, 08:52 AM
Originally posted by Haunted
I am a filthy heathen Pagan infidel not to mention a horrible terrible Witch. No...You are a very GOOD witch.....Well, I mean...Good at what you DO..Not like, good as in 'innocent'...lol ;)

FairyKorpes
11-04-2004, 08:53 AM
I believe in God and although shitty things happen they happen for a reason. Even if there isn't what harm is there believeing and praying.

Haunted
11-04-2004, 08:54 AM
You know it just goes to show that no matter what you believe in, as along as you're a decent person...who gives a poop.

urgeok
11-04-2004, 08:55 AM
Originally posted by bloodrayne
OH...This guy believes that he really IS a Vampire..There is actually an entire religion based on THAT, too...

yeah we get them in Toronto too .. they get a dentist to pop in a couple of fangs, sleep in the day and club all night listening to bauhaus etc ... then one day they walk in front of a car because they're convinced it wont hurt them.

(i'm not making this up)

Then again there are people who think they are jesus, napoleon and marilyn monroe ...

the imagination is a wonderful thing ... till it buys you a few years vacation in a padded hotel room.

By the way .. i really have to comment on the love and care that went into the Cradle of Filth poster !! :)

Haunted
11-04-2004, 08:56 AM
Originally posted by bloodrayne
No...You are a very GOOD witch.....Well, I mean...Good at what you DO..Not like, good as in 'innocent'...lol ;)

*takes a bow* Thank you. Now...let's curse someone.



















Just kidding.

urgeok
11-04-2004, 08:56 AM
Originally posted by Haunted
You know it just goes to show that no matter what you believe in, as along as you're a decent person...who gives a poop.


i'll buy that .. the only problem is the dire short supply of decent people ..

FairyKorpes
11-04-2004, 08:57 AM
Originally posted by urgeok
By the way .. i really have to comment on the love and care that went into the Cradle of Filth poster !! :)

Lmfao:p

bloodrayne
11-04-2004, 09:00 AM
Originally posted by FairyKorpes
Lmfao:p LOL...I was gonna do that, too



And I agree with you 100%, Haunted ;) :)

bwind22
11-04-2004, 09:00 AM
Wouldn't we have to probably all be agnostic in a way? No one knows. Some people have faith that God exists. Others believe he doesn't. Yet other worship Allah or The Devil. But no one really knows...


Just like no one can say for sure what happens when you die. The people with near death experiences probably catch a brief glimpse, but no one is certain how it is, once it's final.

These are the questions that can keep anyone up scratching their head at night. Or at least me....;)

urgeok
11-04-2004, 09:06 AM
i've never had any faith in that near death experience deal .. who knows whats being concocted in the brain when its running out of oxygen (which is the solitary cause of death)

there could be dreams, memories, chemical fireworks, anything !

we all want to believe in something else .. unless you can come to grips with the fact that here and now is all its gonna be and your only crack at immortality is the memories you leave behind in others - especially your children.

Which is reason enough for me to strive to be a decent person ..
i dont need the fear of some eternal damnation to keep me in line.

bloodrayne
11-04-2004, 09:07 AM
Originally posted by bwind22
Wouldn't we have to probably all be agnostic in a way? No one knows. Some people have faith that God exists. Others believe he doesn't. Yet other worship Allah or The Devil. But no one really knows...


Just like no one can say for sure what happens when you die. The people with near death experiences probably catch a brief glimpse, but no one is certain how it is, once it's final.

These are the questions that can keep anyone up scratching their head at night. Or at least me....;) Hmm...Ya know, Bwind...This got me thinking (ouch..lol)...Someone was joking about myths and fairy tales here...But, what connotates a myth or fairy tale?...Something or someone who is spoken of, but never seen or heard, a story that is passed down, told about, read about...Sounds kinda like God, huh?

I told Jonathan (The Vampire Freak in the picture back there) that he can't be a Vampire because he isn't immortal.....He said, "Christians aren't immortal either, yet their God is supposed to be"...Just something to ponder, I suppose...

allmykids
11-04-2004, 09:07 AM
Ok one more reason for everyone to hate me. Yes I am a Christian. I think that even if the proof was in there face alot of people still would not belive. as far as why do the bad things happen I think it's called what goes around comes around!!

newb
11-04-2004, 09:10 AM
I believe there must be a GOD. How else could you explain the growth of rice, hops and barley.

I was born and raised Catholic but I don't really practice any religion now.

urgeok
11-04-2004, 09:10 AM
i sure as hell wouldnt hate someone for their religious convictions ..

urgeok
11-04-2004, 09:12 AM
If there's 2 things i cant stand its people who have no tolerance for other people because of their beliefs or their place or origin.

and the Dutch.


hahahahaha :)

bloodrayne
11-04-2004, 09:13 AM
Originally posted by allmykids
as far as why do the bad things happen I think it's called what goes around comes around!! Hmm..But THAT would be Karma...and Karma is a predominantly Wiccan/Pagan belief...Wouldn't a Christian be more likely to say that it's 'Divine Retribution'?...Not, just a reaction to an action, but a vengeance with a purpose?...Know what I mean?

urgeok
11-04-2004, 09:15 AM
i thought Karma was an eastern belief ..
part of the seven rings or whatever all that is ,, you build karma to exist on a higher plane each time you are reincarnated ..

or am i mixing things up here ?

newb
11-04-2004, 09:16 AM
Originally posted by urgeok
If there's 2 things i cant stand its people who have no tolerance for other people because of their beliefs or their place or origin.

and the Dutch.


hahahahaha :)

But they make such good paint.

http://theimaginaryworld.com/disp15.jpg

allmykids
11-04-2004, 09:16 AM
Originally posted by urgeok
If there's 2 things i cant stand its people who have no tolerance for other people because of their beliefs or their place or origin.

and the Dutch.


hahahahaha :)

I allways seen to be in the minority!!! I have friends that belive and don't. I can be friends with people who don't think the same way I do!! That's what makes the world go round!

urgeok
11-04-2004, 09:16 AM
and killer haircuts !

urgeok
11-04-2004, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by allmykids
I allways seen to be in the minority!!! I have friends that belive and don't. I can be friends with people who don't think the same way I do!! That's what makes the world go round!

well, its a big world and hundreds of different religions .. and within each religion there are dozens of sects/factions ...

hell there isnt 2 people who believe in exactly the same thing ..
Even 2 christians of the same denomination cant agree on every point ...

we're all in our own minorities - dont feel so bad :)

bloodrayne
11-04-2004, 09:31 AM
Originally posted by urgeok
i thought Karma was an eastern belief ..
part of the seven rings or whatever all that is ,, you build karma to exist on a higher plane each time you are reincarnated ..

or am i mixing things up here ? Yes...eastern, too...I only REALLY meant 'moreso Wiccan/Pagan (and probably just about anything else) other than Christian'..Does that make sense?..*mumbles...stupid sun is sapping my brain..grr...*

urgeok
11-04-2004, 09:33 AM
gotcha :)

Arioch
11-04-2004, 09:40 AM
LOL..It seems that almost EVERYONE that I've been hangin' with lately is either Wiccan or Pagan...Hmm...Christians seem to be the MINORITY 'round here...

*Bud-ump-pshhh*

In KENTUCKY? Hahaha....goodform!!

FairyKorpes
11-04-2004, 09:42 AM
Originally posted by bloodrayne
Yes...eastern, too...I only REALLY meant 'moreso Wiccan/Pagan (and probably just about anything else) other than Christian'..Does that make sense?..*mumbles...stupid sun is sapping my brain..grr...*

Did you see The Wicker Man? Is that a good interpretation of Pagan? I know squat about it?

bloodrayne
11-04-2004, 09:42 AM
Originally posted by Arioch
*Bud-ump-pshhh*

In KENTUCKY? Hahaha....goodform!! Actually..I've been hangin' out in Cincinnati..Big City...Sooo...There ya go :)

bloodrayne
11-04-2004, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by FairyKorpes
Did you see The Wicker Man? Is that a good interpretation of Pagan? I know squat about it? LOL..You should ask Haunted..She IS Pagan ;)

Arioch
11-04-2004, 09:45 AM
allways seen to be in the minority!!! I have friends that belive and don't. I can be friends with people who don't think the same way I do!! That's what makes the world go round!

AHHHH! With the exclaimation marks and screaming, is this the inquisition?

allmykids
11-04-2004, 09:47 AM
Do you know the muffin man??

urgeok
11-04-2004, 09:47 AM
isnt he the chap who lives on Drury Lane ?

allmykids
11-04-2004, 09:49 AM
Originally posted by urgeok
isnt he the chap who lives on Drury Lane ?

Your supose to say the muffin man??

urgeok
11-04-2004, 09:50 AM
i guess i'd better watch Shrek again :)

allmykids
11-04-2004, 09:50 AM
Originally posted by urgeok
i guess i'd better watch Shrek again :)

:D :D

bloodrayne
11-04-2004, 09:50 AM
Uh Oh..This thread is about to take a WIDE right turn..Zwoti, where is your sign?...lol

Haunted
11-04-2004, 09:51 AM
NO ONE EXPECTS THE AMK INQUISITION!!!

Sorry AMK, I couldn't resist.


And no, the Wicker Man doesn't represent real Paganism. For one thing, we wouldn't suck on a frog's ass for a sore throat, we'd drink tea with with willow bark in it. For another, we don't do the sacrifice thing.

Karma is part of the 7 Upinashads. Its a Hindu philosophy as well as Buddhist. Every action, even taking a wee, creates karma.

urgeok
11-04-2004, 09:52 AM
well, so far the 'not's are in the lead by 5 to 4.
what do the winners get ?
Complete spiritual awareness ?

allmykids
11-04-2004, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by bloodrayne
Uh Oh..This thread is about to take a WIDE right turn..Zwoti, where is your sign?...lol

Sorry!! Nothing to see folks !! You may continue!! LOL

urgeok
11-04-2004, 09:53 AM
Originally posted by Haunted
NO ONE EXPECTS THE AMK INQUISITION!!!

Sorry AMK, I couldn't resist.


And no, the Wicker Man doesn't represent real Paganism. For one thing, we wouldn't suck on a frog's ass for a sore throat, we'd drink tea with with willow bark in it. For another, we don't do the sacrifice thing.

Karma is part of the 7 Upinashads. Its a Hindu philosophy as well as Buddhist. Every action, even taking a wee, creates karma.

JESUS CHRIST !!! I've been sucking on frogs asses all these years for nothing ???? !@!!!

allmykids
11-04-2004, 09:53 AM
Originally posted by Haunted
NO ONE EXPECTS THE AMK INQUISITION!!!

Sorry AMK, I couldn't resist.


And no, the Wicker Man doesn't represent real Paganism. For one thing, we wouldn't suck on a frog's ass for a sore throat, we'd drink tea with with willow bark in it. For another, we don't do the sacrifice thing.

Karma is part of the 7 Upinashads. Its a Hindu philosophy as well as Buddhist. Every action, even taking a wee, creates karma.

:eek:

bloodrayne
11-04-2004, 10:00 AM
OMG!..I just caught myself humming the fucking MUFFIN MAN song!...*Whips out Uzi...Shoots AMK and Urgeok*




Now...Somebody's gotta clean up this mess...lol

urgeok
11-04-2004, 10:01 AM
you clean it up, you made it !

i'm too busy wiping frog ass off my mouth

MichaelMyers
11-04-2004, 10:06 AM
I'm agnostic.

Arioch
11-04-2004, 10:09 AM
well, so far the 'not's are in the lead by 5 to 4.
what do the winners get ?
Complete spiritual awareness ?


Well you also have to consider the source, horror movies arent exactly the average christians forte...

Also, the average age here is much younger than say 18 or so....i usually find that christianity finds alot more supporters the older the age group...

allmykids
11-04-2004, 10:11 AM
Originally posted by urgeok
you clean it up, you made it !

i'm too busy wiping frog ass off my mouth

LOL

FairyKorpes
11-04-2004, 10:18 AM
Originally posted by urgeok
you clean it up, you made it !

i'm too busy wiping frog ass off my mouth

"I've got to clean it up it's only fair. Time for the 10 second tidy" :(

urgeok
11-04-2004, 10:20 AM
Originally posted by Arioch
Well you also have to consider the source, horror movies arent exactly the average christians forte...

Also, the average age here is much younger than say 18 or so....i usually find that christianity finds alot more supporters the older the age group...

oddly enough though i know a few who have voted are near 30 or older.
Myself being one of them ...
I think hardliners would avoid horror because of the very nature of the genre but the average 'i believe but only go to church on xmas' types watch horror .. I hear a lot from these folks that they are only frightened by the Exorcist - satan type horrors because they think they are more real.
But they still seem to like them in a rollercoaster sort of way...

feral cat
11-04-2004, 10:53 AM
Darwinian Realist

gren
11-04-2004, 11:00 AM
lol, this is a funny thread. wish i was here earlier

anyway, i dont consider myself anything, but i guess i would fall under agnostic. tihs being the first time ive ever labeled myself that

i was 'raised' catholic, used to go to church with family for a few years but didnt really learn anything. picked up a childrens bible of the jehovah witness variety when i was young. strange thing, i was a little girl reading that shit. cool fuckin pics, neat stories but i got to the end where 'you can live forever this is how!' and i was like 'WTF'

even as a little kid, religion just didnt make sense to me.

just as if proof WERE to prove a god, and people wouldnt believe it.. if there was proof to DISprove god... people wouldnt believe that either..... (eg evolution)

Arioch
11-04-2004, 11:21 AM
just as if proof WERE to prove a god, and people wouldnt believe it.. if there was proof to DISprove god... people wouldnt believe that either..... (eg evolution

Agreed...

Heretic_Ideals
11-04-2004, 12:30 PM
i consider myself nothing i don't really give a shit either way im gonna live my life the best way for me my carnal self i guess if you want to label that anything thatd fall under levay satanism but i dont practice it or any religion....although i do like to read and study on all of them.

urgeok
11-04-2004, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by gren
lol, this is a funny thread. wish i was here earlier

anyway, i dont consider myself anything, but i guess i would fall under agnostic. tihs being the first time ive ever labeled myself that

i was 'raised' catholic, used to go to church with family for a few years but didnt really learn anything. picked up a childrens bible of the jehovah witness variety when i was young. strange thing, i was a little girl reading that shit. cool fuckin pics, neat stories but i got to the end where 'you can live forever this is how!' and i was like 'WTF'

even as a little kid, religion just didnt make sense to me.

just as if proof WERE to prove a god, and people wouldnt believe it.. if there was proof to DISprove god... people wouldnt believe that either..... (eg evolution)


Thats why Faith is the single most important componant of christianity .. or any other religion for that matter.

meetthecreeper
11-04-2004, 01:40 PM
Wiccan-for those who didnt know, evil or good depends on who you talk to.

friday13thfan
11-04-2004, 01:48 PM
im Buddist. im steel trying to find inlightinment.

i respect all religion and i do thing there is a god but my god is the all mighty buddha

FairyKorpes
11-04-2004, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by friday13thfan
im Buddist. im steel trying to find inlightinment.

i respect all religion and i do thing there is a god but my god is the all mighty buddha

For future reference is Buddhist;)

allmykids
11-04-2004, 02:28 PM
BUDA!!

allmykids
11-04-2004, 02:29 PM
HAIL FAT BELLY MAN!! LOL

FairyKorpes
11-04-2004, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by allmykids
HAIL FAT BELLY MAN!! LOL

If i rub it do i get a wish?

allmykids
11-04-2004, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by FairyKorpes
If i rub it do i get a wish?

YES!! What do you wish for??

Arioch
11-04-2004, 02:47 PM
im Buddist. im steel trying to find inlightinment

You might look for Enlightenment first....you might find that quicker;)

allmykids
11-04-2004, 02:50 PM
Make your wish!!

The STE
11-04-2004, 03:07 PM
Also Buddhist. I much prefer the fat jolly man (not unlike Santa) to the Jewish (and kinda ripped if the paintings are accurate) man bleeding and dying while nailed to a tree.

urgeok
11-04-2004, 03:09 PM
Hey Buddha Buddha Buddha, SWING !!!!!!!!!

allmykids
11-04-2004, 03:23 PM
SANTA HO HO HO!! It's almost CHRISTMAS!!! YAH!! Can't wait!

DarkwingMantis
11-04-2004, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by Haunted
NO ONE EXPECTS THE AMK INQUISITION!!!

Sorry AMK, I couldn't resist.


And no, the Wicker Man doesn't represent real Paganism. For one thing, we wouldn't suck on a frog's ass for a sore throat, we'd drink tea with with willow bark in it. For another, we don't do the sacrifice thing.

Karma is part of the 7 Upinashads. Its a Hindu philosophy as well as Buddhist. Every action, even taking a wee, creates karma.

You mean ive been sucking on that frogs ass for nothing!!!!!

allmykids
11-04-2004, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by DarkwingMantis
You mean ive been sucking on that frogs ass for nothing!!!!!

YEP!!

urgeok
11-04-2004, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by DarkwingMantis
You mean ive been sucking on that frogs ass for nothing!!!!!


wow deja vu !

DarkwingMantis
11-04-2004, 03:27 PM
DAMN!!!!! I didnt even get hallucinations or nuthin but a wart on my lip!!! :mad:

allmykids
11-04-2004, 03:29 PM
Originally posted by DarkwingMantis
DAMN!!!!! I didnt even get hallucinations or nuthin but a wart on my lip!!! :mad:

Ho ya when you like a frog you have Hallucinations!! You got ripped off!!

allmykids
11-04-2004, 03:29 PM
Originally posted by allmykids
Ho ya when you like a frog you have Hallucinations!! You got ripped off!!

Try it again!! LOL

DarkwingMantis
11-04-2004, 03:31 PM
Im gonna have a LONG chat with my dealer!

The STE
11-04-2004, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by allmykids
Ho ya when you like a frog you have Hallucinations!! You got ripped off!!

That explains it. I don't particularly like frogs, and I've never had a hallucination

chaplain
11-04-2004, 03:32 PM
Something I found kinda cool is my father-in-law is very much athiest, yet he sent all 3 of his children to church frequently because he didn't want to force his beliefs on them.He thought they should make up thier own minds about what they believe in.You don't see that too much.

allmykids
11-04-2004, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by DarkwingMantis
Im gonna have a LONG chat with my dealer!

I would too!! It just aint right!!

DarkwingMantis
11-04-2004, 03:35 PM
WOH! Im startin to get the shakes... NEED TOAD!!!


Anyone remember that episode of Family guy???

FairyKorpes
11-04-2004, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by allmykids
YES!! What do you wish for??

To be filthy stinking rich. Please;)

urgeok
11-04-2004, 03:37 PM
i'm filthy and stinking .. i just always have trouble with the rich part.

allmykids
11-04-2004, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by FairyKorpes
To be filthy stinking rich. Please;)

You Got It!!

kpropain
11-04-2004, 04:05 PM
Originally posted by zwoti
atheist

Ditto

chaplain
11-04-2004, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by kpropain
Ditto


I think more than anyone here you have the most reason to feel that way.:(

kpropain
11-04-2004, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by chaplain
I think more than anyone here you have the most reason to feel that way.:(

Thx man, but even before I found out about my son's condition I was an atheist...Have been for most of my life...

FairyKorpes
11-04-2004, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by allmykids
You Got It!!

Sweet~!


*dials HSN and waits*

DarkwingMantis
11-04-2004, 04:21 PM
I found alot of comfort in Wicca, after I found that it is basically what I have believed most of my life anyway... now I have a title

Heretic_Ideals
11-04-2004, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by DarkwingMantis
WOH! Im startin to get the shakes... NEED TOAD!!!


Anyone remember that episode of Family guy???


great episode i love when he goes " lois that makes sense cause when i try to speed things up i'm not thinking of (insert her name i forgot) i'm thinking of (insert other girls name i also forgot it)."

friday13thfan
11-04-2004, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by Arioch
You might look for Enlightenment first....you might find that quicker;) \

ok buddhist, enlightenment i get the point already

Heretic_Ideals
11-05-2004, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by allmykids
HAIL FAT BELLY MAN!! LOL

haha like anger managment.." where does a 300 pound fat man get the right to teach people about self discepline"

DarkwingMantis
11-05-2004, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by Heretic_Ideals
"where does a 300 pound fat man get the right to teach people about self discepline"
Anywhere he wants! :D

wufong
11-05-2004, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by DarkwingMantis
Anywhere he wants! :D
more likely than not its at mcdonalds."let me enlighten you of that big mac" oooga booga booga

DarkwingMantis
11-05-2004, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by wufong
more likely than not its at mcdonalds."let me enlighten you of that big mac" oooga booga booga

I can get something Big an' Tastey at Mikey D's......

Did that sound Gay?

zwoti
11-06-2004, 01:13 AM
Originally posted by wufong
more likely than not its at mcdonalds."let me enlighten you of that big mac" oooga booga booga

Haunted
11-06-2004, 09:24 AM
lmao!!!!!! Zwoti, your little macros crack me up. eeheehee you can't make this shit up.

allmykids
11-06-2004, 09:50 AM
Originally posted by zwoti


LMFAO!!

zwoti
11-06-2004, 11:23 AM
Originally posted by Haunted
lmao!!!!!! Zwoti, your little macros crack me up. eeheehee you can't make this shit up.

Originally posted by allmykids
LMFAO!!

i'm here to please http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/zwoti/jammin.gif